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08-18-2016, 12:45 PM
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Gas cap engraving
Is their any logic to some of the things that people engrave on their gas caps?
I understand putting "100LL Only", or "AVGAS". The reasoning is so the wrong stuff won't be accidentally put in.
I understand putting your N number on, in case a Cap gets "lost".
I understand open/close positions and/or directions, for people who don't know how to use the cap. I would question why they are filling my airplane then, so I don't agree with that logic, but I can understand it.
Things I don't understand the reasoning behind at all, are:
- Capacity (e.g. "21 US Gallons")
- Aircraft type (e.g. "RV-8")
Can anyone help me understand why? Have any of you seen other things there, and thought "That's a good idea!" ?
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08-18-2016, 12:49 PM
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Up North Aviation is who you want to talk to. http://www.upnorthaviation.com/fuel-cap-engraving.html
Lots of great reviews in the "Reviews" section. http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...c&daysprune=-1
Example of his offerings;

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08-18-2016, 12:59 PM
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I went with:
100LL only
17.7 gal. usable
Short & sweet.
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08-18-2016, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdeerinck
Is their any logic to some of the things that people engrave on their gas caps?
I understand putting "100LL Only", or "AVGAS". The reasoning is so the wrong stuff won't be accidentally put in.
Things I don't understand the reasoning behind at all, are:
- Capacity (e.g. "21 US Gallons")
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Pretty sure you will find that fuel type and quantity are required by FAA regs.
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VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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08-18-2016, 01:20 PM
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Pretty sure you will find that fuel type and quantity are required by FAA regs.
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Mike S -- Not disagreeing at all, as this might be the most important reply of all. Can you point me to the Reg?
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08-18-2016, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
Pretty sure you will find that fuel type and quantity are required by FAA regs.
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Just looked it up...
Apparently QTY is not directly in the Part 23 requirements, but it says other markings may be required by a certified aircraft AFM. Fuel type is a required marking
I think the aircraft manuals might specify it to help with W&B calculations.
PS above is for certified aircraft.
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08-18-2016, 01:27 PM
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If it is FAR 23.1557, it only need say AVGAS 100LL, not capacity.
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08-18-2016, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdeerinck
Mike S -- Not disagreeing at all, as this might be the most important reply of all. Can you point me to the Reg?
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No idea about reg number, but I recall having to label the tanks for my airworthiness inspection.
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Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
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08-18-2016, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdeerinck
If it is FAR 23.1557, it only need say AVGAS 100LL, not capacity.
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Correct, but the Type Certificate details are added regulatory requirements for certified aircraft and they do all seem to add fuel qty. as a required placard.
Even the lowly C-150...  page 18 -
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/14b9f17e0cdcc2ae862578bf004875be/$FILE/3A19%20Rev%2048.pdf
My Tiger TCDS does the same, but that has the added feature of a tab to label. The C-150 is a simple tank.
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Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
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Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
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Last edited by az_gila : 08-18-2016 at 01:44 PM.
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08-18-2016, 02:04 PM
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Gil - Thanks for that. I will add the capacity, because "why not?". If there is a reason for certified planes to have it, it probably has some value (don't flame me for that comment).
I did notice that 23.1557 also says that the fuel selector is supposed to indicate capacity for each separate source, but I have never seen that on any RV that I looked at. So it would need to say 21 US Gallons on both the right and left side of the fuel selector. That I will not do, unless told that it is mandatory during my inspection.
Good info guys, thank you very much!
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