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07-14-2016, 04:58 PM
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Another option is to just buy high temp zip ties (or even regular ones) from grainger or fastenal and inspect and replace as necessary at each annual.
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07-14-2016, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fayetteville, GA
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stainless steel tie wraps
Joe, I used those from Home Depot in my engine compartment. Takes a special gun to pull them tight, like this one:
http://www.cabletiesandmore.com/grip...el-tie-gun.php. I haven't flown yet so I don't know how they'll hold up to vibration.
J Baker
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07-15-2016, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alpinelakespilot2000
Another option is to just buy high temp zip ties (or even regular ones) from grainger or fastenal and inspect and replace as necessary at each annual.
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That was my plan when I bought some Thomas & Betts TY525's. Rated for 85C / 185F.
I have yet to replace one in the engine compartment for any reason other than me wanting to add/remove/reroute/etc. whatever they were holding. If I recall they were somewhere around $150 CDN for a bag of 1000.
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1996 RV-6 "Tweety" C-FRBP (formerly N196RV)
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07-15-2016, 08:59 AM
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Fastenall sells a good high quality tie wrap with a metal locking tab. Reasonable price, good quality and they have lasted well for 4 years and 350 hrs in my engine compartment.
Tim Andres
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07-15-2016, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rockbottom
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I'm 15 years and 1000+ hours in. My Home Depot zip ties are holding up just fine everywhere, including FWF.
People may be overthinking this.
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Kyle Boatright
Marietta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
2019(?) RV-10
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07-15-2016, 09:54 AM
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Location: Houston
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright
I'm 15 years and 1000+ hours in. My Home Depot zip ties are holding up just fine everywhere, including FWF.
People may be overthinking this.
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+1. 90-percent of the tie wraps on my plane don't stay in place beyond 2-3 years. Changing an ignition, changing wires, rerouting wires, etc, etc. They come off. Some have been in place for 10 years behind the panel. Never seen one let loose/release, melt or otherwise fail in 16 years and ~1900 hrs on my ride. And I use a mix of HD, Lowes, and (gasp!) Harbor Freight tie wraps.
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Bryan
Houston
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07-15-2016, 12:32 PM
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tie wraps
Agreed. Now 35 years on our Pitts S-2A. We change tie wraps FWF if they look questionable and for routine tidying. IIRC we had one break. I's easy to access the engine compartment of the Pitts and it gets inspected fairly often. I did get some of the high temp (blue, black) from Stein. One of these broke in the first year. Back to Home Depot, Lowe's, local hardware store from now on!
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Bill Dicus
Shorewood (Milwaukee) Wisconsin
RV-8 N9669D Flying 12/4/14!
Flying Pitts S-2A, Piper Lance
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07-21-2016, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: salem Oregon
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Originally Posted by az_gila
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Thanks Gil, I ordered the ties from this company. 2 packages of a 100 each, 4" & 7". Very kind people and good prices, great customer service. Hope my inspector appreciates the trouble I went through finding these ties. Then I'll tell him VAF is a great place to find what you need. Thanks Gil
Cheers
Ron in Oregon
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07-21-2016, 10:17 AM
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Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ron sterba
Thanks Mel, I ordered the ties from this company. 2 packages of a 100 each, 4" & 7". Very kind people and good prices, great customer service. Hope my inspector appreciates the trouble I went through finding these ties. Then I'll tell him VAF is a great place to find what you need. Thanks Mel
Cheers
Ron in Oregon
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You are welcome --- but it's Gil and not Mel... 
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Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
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La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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07-21-2016, 10:19 AM
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Location: Tampa, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright
I'm 15 years and 1000+ hours in. My Home Depot zip ties are holding up just fine everywhere, including FWF.
People may be overthinking this.
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The issue might be the inspector, not the zip ties themselves. Here in the DC area, the Washington FSDO inspectors don't like to see nylon zip ties FWF. Sometimes it's just easier to play the game. YMMV....
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