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Old 07-14-2016, 04:58 PM
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Another option is to just buy high temp zip ties (or even regular ones) from grainger or fastenal and inspect and replace as necessary at each annual.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:11 PM
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Joe, I used those from Home Depot in my engine compartment. Takes a special gun to pull them tight, like this one:
http://www.cabletiesandmore.com/grip...el-tie-gun.php. I haven't flown yet so I don't know how they'll hold up to vibration.

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Old 07-15-2016, 08:24 AM
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Another option is to just buy high temp zip ties (or even regular ones) from grainger or fastenal and inspect and replace as necessary at each annual.
That was my plan when I bought some Thomas & Betts TY525's. Rated for 85C / 185F.

I have yet to replace one in the engine compartment for any reason other than me wanting to add/remove/reroute/etc. whatever they were holding. If I recall they were somewhere around $150 CDN for a bag of 1000.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:59 AM
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Fastenall sells a good high quality tie wrap with a metal locking tab. Reasonable price, good quality and they have lasted well for 4 years and 350 hrs in my engine compartment.
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Old 07-15-2016, 09:09 AM
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Joe, I used those from Home Depot in my engine compartment. Takes a special gun to pull them tight, like this one:
http://www.cabletiesandmore.com/grip...el-tie-gun.php. I haven't flown yet so I don't know how they'll hold up to vibration.

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I'm 15 years and 1000+ hours in. My Home Depot zip ties are holding up just fine everywhere, including FWF.

People may be overthinking this.
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Old 07-15-2016, 09:54 AM
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I'm 15 years and 1000+ hours in. My Home Depot zip ties are holding up just fine everywhere, including FWF.

People may be overthinking this.
+1. 90-percent of the tie wraps on my plane don't stay in place beyond 2-3 years. Changing an ignition, changing wires, rerouting wires, etc, etc. They come off. Some have been in place for 10 years behind the panel. Never seen one let loose/release, melt or otherwise fail in 16 years and ~1900 hrs on my ride. And I use a mix of HD, Lowes, and (gasp!) Harbor Freight tie wraps.
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Old 07-15-2016, 12:32 PM
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Default tie wraps

Agreed. Now 35 years on our Pitts S-2A. We change tie wraps FWF if they look questionable and for routine tidying. IIRC we had one break. I's easy to access the engine compartment of the Pitts and it gets inspected fairly often. I did get some of the high temp (blue, black) from Stein. One of these broke in the first year. Back to Home Depot, Lowe's, local hardware store from now on!
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Old 07-21-2016, 10:14 AM
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Not Mil-Spec but high temp tefzel tie-wraps -

http://www.cabletiesunlimited.com/te...able-ties.html

Are these the one you are talking about?
Thanks Gil, I ordered the ties from this company. 2 packages of a 100 each, 4" & 7". Very kind people and good prices, great customer service. Hope my inspector appreciates the trouble I went through finding these ties. Then I'll tell him VAF is a great place to find what you need. Thanks Gil

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Old 07-21-2016, 10:17 AM
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Thanks Mel, I ordered the ties from this company. 2 packages of a 100 each, 4" & 7". Very kind people and good prices, great customer service. Hope my inspector appreciates the trouble I went through finding these ties. Then I'll tell him VAF is a great place to find what you need. Thanks Mel

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You are welcome --- but it's Gil and not Mel...
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Old 07-21-2016, 10:19 AM
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I'm 15 years and 1000+ hours in. My Home Depot zip ties are holding up just fine everywhere, including FWF.

People may be overthinking this.
The issue might be the inspector, not the zip ties themselves. Here in the DC area, the Washington FSDO inspectors don't like to see nylon zip ties FWF. Sometimes it's just easier to play the game. YMMV....
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