Hangar Construction?

[N62XS]

For those of you that have either built or contracted the construction of a hangar, would you be willing to make recommendations/give advice/share experiences on brand/things not to do/things you wish were done differently?

[grover]

don't hire out "complete concrete" / "c&c ready mix" (if they're still in business). . . . sav outfit. really made a cockup of my slab.

[gbrasch]

Robby, send you an e mail with a phone number.

[Bill Whidden]

I've just finished building a 10,200 s.f. hanger in Apopka florida. I saved over 40% of the complete cost by "contracting all of the subs myself". A little more of a pain in the arse but worth it. Not including the land, which we were able to actually purchase, I spent right at 225,000. This included Hydroswing doors, fully insulated and a sprinkler system that the county insisted on. This building is 70' x 145'. I got three quotes from contractors and they all came in around $45.00 per square foot to build complete, which was around $470,000. It's like getting your RV's for free.

If you have a couple of spare days a week to spend on site, a friend who is a contractor and can pull the permit for you, and are capable of building an RV, you are fully qualified to build your own building.

You can call me at 407-616-7764 and I'll give you any info I can on the different manufacturers of all the components necessary to complete.
BTW, This building was built for RV hanger space and for people to assemble their projects while rubbing elbows with other RV'ers.


Bill Whidden
RV6 Hope to fly this April
RV8 Hope to fly next April.

[pierre smith]

Hi Robby,
Check your PM's.

Pierre

[MrNomad]

Before you pile blocks or, worse yet, use sticks to construct your hangar, lookup Nudura Insulated Concrete Foam systems. We looked at 6 insulated foam products and believe this one is the best. The perimeter walls will cost 10-15% more than stick but the hangar will be cool in summer and warmer in winter. And when the better half tosses your butt out and you need a place to bunk, you can put up some interior walls and make a little apt. Meanwhile the utilities are cheap and the termites have nothing to munch.

We finished the job with KC panels for the roof. Using treated OSB, KC adheres foam insulation to the 4x8 sections of OSB which drop in place over the rafters. Just make sure the engineering is correct.

Barry
Tucson

[sportpilot]

Call Mr Jordan at Jordan Metal buildings PO box 22, Hoboken, Ga 31542 Phone (912) 458 3465. Kenneth Jordan is a specialist in Metal buildings in our south ga area. He's built dozens of buildings around locally among them 2 buildings for my brother. He is currently building a 50 X 50 hangar at the Ware County airport (kays) to house a C172 and a Piper Saratroga. He does a turn key job including insulation, custom interiorers, concrete slabs and fold up doors. My brother is happy as all get out with his 2 buildings, one of them houses his wifes Skyhawk and his Glasair II at kays. Only one problem. I don't know if he will go to Rincon or not. If you call, tell him Sonny Stokes of Hoboken reccommended him.

Ohh and BTW, if you pour a ramp slab in front of your hangar, be sure and anchor tie-down rings in the concrete.

[az_gila]

Robby... if it's a "standard" steel hangar, the key number is 25 ft. for the depth.

1. Make your hangar depth an increment of 25 ft.... This is the maximum spacing for the major cross beams - which will weigh over a ton each.

Since you are effectively buying a steel hangar by weight... ...maximizing the use of these expensive beams reduces your $$/sq. ft. number.

2. Ask for flush girts on the sides, not overlap girts... this will give about a foot of extra width between the main supports.

3. The design software doesn't seem to mind any number in the width.

4. Ask the steel building guy if he can do a Horton stack door. If he doesn't know what you are talking about, he hasn't done many hangars.
http://www.hortonstackdoor.com/

5. Watch for fire codes, recent adoption of the IBC codes has made our county and city classify any large building as commercial, since the international code (why the &*% are we using building codes based in Switzerland?) has a size limit on a residential hangar. This drives all sort of sprinkler, hydrant, even foam issues....

gil in Tucson... glad I built my hangar before the IBC...

[Mel]

Just to add a little to what Gil said, 25' should be the MAXIMUM bay. One of my hangars has 20' bays and the new one has 25' bays. I've seen them with 30' bays...You don't want that! Also what he call "flush" is called "space saver" by my builder. This actually gave me 16" of extra clearance, 8" perlins on each side. And, yes, you do want that!

[az_gila]

Originally Posted by Mel

....... I've seen them with 30' bays...

Mel... my builders software wouldn't allow more than 25 ft... and the snow load requirements (one of the main spacing drivers) are pretty low in Tucson...

Looking at other makes of steel hangars in the airpark... I think they all use similar design software...

Incidentally, my hangar was ordered from, and designed in CA, the main weldments were done in TX, and the sheet and final packaging was done in PHX, so my trucking charge for 11 tons was only for 100 miles...

gil A