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06-08-2016, 06:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Peoria, AZ
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FAA $500 ADS-B rebates starting
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06-08-2016, 07:39 PM
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Location: Dublin, CA
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So what does that mean for active builders? My take is that it doesn't appear to apply unfortunately.
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06-08-2016, 07:48 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rapid_ascent
So what does that mean for active builders? My take is that it doesn't appear to apply unfortunately.
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Aircraft must be registered before 1/1/2016.
And all of us tax payers get to fund it to the tune of $10 mil+!
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06-08-2016, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
Aircraft must be registered before 1/1/2016.
And all of us tax payers get to fund it to the tune of $10 mil+!
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And it appears that it needs to be TSO'd equipment, which rules out our legal, but non-TSO'd choices.
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06-09-2016, 12:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Elk Grove, CA
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Nice try FAA
Considering the current costs to equip my Cessna, 500 bucks isn't going to make me run to the avionics shop anytime soon.
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06-09-2016, 05:35 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shreveport, LA
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interpretation
I am unclear...does this say that we experimental owners can install our own certified units, and qualify for the rebate?
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06-09-2016, 05:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Palmer Lake, CO
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Certified in experimental ok?
Looking at the rules: https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipads...les_612016.pdf it sure seems like if you install one of the certified units in an RV that was registered by the proper date you would qualify for the rebate.
I have a question into NavWorx to see if the ADS600-EXP will count. I kind of think it will not after looking on the FAA website list of units. They only listed the ADS600-B. Given the price differential between the two units, it will still make more sense to go with something like the ADS600-EXP. Will let you know what I find out.
Geoff
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06-09-2016, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueflyer
I am unclear...does this say that we experimental owners can install our own certified units, and qualify for the rebate?
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The rule states "authorized installer". Anybody is authorized to install equipment in an experimental aircraft. So I read that to mean if you install a qualifying unit in to an experimental aircraft it qualifies for the rebate. Now TESTING it to confirm it meets regulations (ex. a qualifying transponder) is a separate issue. YMMV

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06-09-2016, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pilot Hill, CA
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I just received my Garmin GTX 345 yesterday. No rebate for me.
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06-09-2016, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Northern California
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Why not? From the .pdf posted above, it states you have to reserve before install. No one has been able to clarify 'self installation' vs going to a shop, but I wouldn't count yourself out just yet...
Program Steps & Timeline
The program will include the following steps and timeline:
[1] Decide: The Owner arranges for purchase and schedules installation of TSO-certified avionics for an
Eligible Aircraft.
[2] Reserve: Before avionics installation occurs, the Aircraft Owner must submit a Rebate Reservation
via a website. Upon successful submission, an email will be sent to the submitter with a Rebate
Reservation Code. During the rebate reservation process, the Eligible Aircraft’s information is validated
against the Civil Aircraft Registry (CAR), including ownership information. If there are discrepancies,
the Aircraft Owner may continue with the reservation process; but before a valid Incentive Code can be
obtained in step [5], the Aircraft Owner must insure that the CAR data for their Eligible Aircraft is
corrected. See Notes A and B.
NOTE: The CAR is updated weekly, typically the first business day of the week; any updates to the
CAR in a given week will typically not be available until the following week.
[3] Install: TSO-certified ADS-B avionics are installed in the Eligible Aircraft.
[4] Fly & Validate: Only after the prior steps are completed, the Eligible Aircraft is flown in the airspace
defined in 14 CFR §91.225 (see Note C for an exception to this) for at least 30 minutes, with at least 10
aggregate minutes of maneuvering flight, per the guidance in AC 20-165B After flight, a PCR and GAIRS
report is obtained to validate performance of the Eligible Aircraft’s ADS-B installation. Note that it may
be necessary to repeat this step more than once, until the GAIRS report indicates PASS for all fields and
provides an Incentive Code in the Rebate Status section.
[5] Claim: Within 60 days of the scheduled installation date, the Aircraft Owner gathers their Rebate
Reservation Code (from step [2]) and their Incentive Code (from step [4]) and navigates to the ADS-B
Rebate website to claim their rebate. After FAA validates a Rebate Claim, the rebate check will be mailed
to the Aircraft Owner as listed in the FAA Civil Aircraft Registry. Only one Rebate Claim per Aircraft
Owner will be paid.
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