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Old 05-28-2016, 10:14 AM
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Default Electrical System - RV-9, Dual G3X, GTN, G5, SD-8

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Trying to sort out my electrical system and hoping for some feedback. Below is my first draft, and is very subject to change.

PlanePower 60A main alternator
B&C SD-8 backup
IBBS backup battery
Garmin G3X system w/ all the goodies
GTN-625
2 p-mags.

Please take a look and let me know what looks off or recommended changes. In particular I have the following questions:

- Does it make sense to use the keep-alive on the GAD 27? Would be nice to keep the endurance bus live during startup but I can't figure out what amperage it can handle. Clearly in the current setup it doesn't work as there is no power from the main bus during startup so it has no power to keep-alive with. How are people wiring the GAD 27?

- What is the preferred method to set up the sd-8 to come on by itself? I have heard setting it's regulator voltage low is one way? Can I set some sort of alert so I know when this happens? Maybe a Master Caution on the G3X based on voltage drop to the setpoint?

- The G5 has it's own battery but should I also have it on the IBBS so it is the battery of last resort? i.e. when the ibbs dies I still have the internal G5 battery?

- I'm wondering if I even need the ibbs backup battery anymore with the spare alternator and GAD 27 providing keepalive power. Granted the SD-8 can't keep everything running indefinitely but it would add a good bit of time to my main battery runtime. I can get things down to under 8a fairly easily by load-shedding the e-bus if need be.

- What's the right spot for the starter contactor? Should it be wired to the e-bus so I can start the engine only when that is energized?

- What else am I missing?

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Old 05-28-2016, 10:31 AM
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Hmm, Im wondering if I should have the GAD 27 entirely on the main bus and not have a landing light on the e-bus. Would be nice to turn on a landing light right before touchdown to see the runway but it's unlikely to be crucial.

Can the GAD 27 have its keepalive power and also it keepalive output on the same bus?
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Old 05-28-2016, 11:55 AM
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FWIW, dump the PP and get a B&C primary alt.
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Old 05-28-2016, 11:56 AM
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Usually the starter contactor is connected to the other side of the battery contactor. Then if the starter contactor sticks closed, the master switch can be shut off to kill power to the starter.
Suggest that an endurance bus relay be installed near the battery so that all power can be shut off close to the battery without having an always hot wire entering the cockpit. Doing that will be appreciated if there is smoke in the cockpit or to minimize sparks in the event of an imminent forced landing.
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Old 05-28-2016, 12:25 PM
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Updated the starter relay.

Not sure I'm sold on the relay. I see the benefit but at the same time I like the idea of a low-complexity switch for the e-bus. Also, how much power does a relay like the S704-1 take to stay closed?

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Old 05-28-2016, 01:25 PM
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You might want to add of the current loading for all of your devices on your endurance bus. It's seems to me that you are over the amount of output for the sd8. Also I'd put the servos on the main. They can draw quite a bit. I put my pmags on pullable breakers. May not be required but I liked the option.
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Old 05-28-2016, 02:42 PM
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Added current load and breaker sizes. Also broke out the "Cabin Power" and "LRUs" sub-buses.

Amperages in brackets are the breaker sizes, amperages by themselves are typical current usage for the device.

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Old 05-28-2016, 04:29 PM
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what program did you use for your schematic?
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Thanks already playing with it.
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