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05-06-2016, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gardnerville Nv.
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Inlet ring to plenum conection?
Going to try my non artistic hand at shaping some foam for the diffuser connection thing to the baffle-plenum contraption, how are you guys making an air tight connection from the fiberglass to sheet aluminum? I would like to keep everything smooth and flowing without much of an overlap or joint?
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05-06-2016, 11:39 AM
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Rv-10, N210LM.
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Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
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05-06-2016, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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I was watching Crabandy's build using Dan's rubber ducky mold technique, not sure if I want to tackle a new skill, just now getting the hang of FG, It looks like Dan used a Nutplate strip to sandwich the boot. I may be overthinking all this, been reading too much on here about all this cooling drag, baffle, plenum stuff, funny, starting the build 6 years ago I never even had one thought about this part of the build. now I need to stop and think what I should do here.....time to go spray top coat on baffle-plenum stuff and air out house before the wife gets home..........(What dear? what paint smell?).........
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05-06-2016, 12:43 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Coventry. England
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Connection
Hi Bret
I made my own plenum and reshaped the inlets on the vans cowl to make them round. For a connection from the cowl to the Plenum I used some 3mm neoprene. It is cut so it fits over the cowl intake stub where I use a large jubilee clip to hold it in place.
The neoprene then sits inside to plenum intake to a depth of about 3 inches and is held by nothing more than its shape and air pressure. I used 5 inch diameter intakes on the cowl and T's and P's are spot on.
There is photo on the first place of my blog which capture this and a better one of the plenum about 5 pages back.
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In completion stage of Loehle P5151
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05-06-2016, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Richmond Hill, GA (KLHW)
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I plan to do like another in my hangar, which is to use some neoprene or similar tubing material (flexible) to tie them together and allow for engine movement.
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RV-7A - Slider - N495KL - First flt 27 Jan 17
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Catto 3 blade NLE, FlightLines Interior, James cowl, plenum & intake, Anti-Splat -14 seat mod and nose gear support
All lines by TSFlightLines (aka Hoser)
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05-06-2016, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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Having gone down the path of fiberglass inlets with the SJ cowl for use with the neoprene boots, I might go a different way.
I think there might be a good opportunity to make a hybrid approach. That is to make the aft 2/3 of the inlet in glass, then graft on a custom urethane boot bonded to the glass, and bonded to the SJ inlet ring. This given that I already have the ring glassed in. This way it is custom fitted to this plane, and no straight section needed for a clamp. A gentle expansion could begin much sooner. Even better if the inlet ring was shortened or modified.
Just a thought.
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05-06-2016, 04:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: lena, il.
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connection
Maybe thin wall silicone turbo hose ?
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05-06-2016, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gardnerville Nv.
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Got any Pics Bill?
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05-06-2016, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Very interested in what you guys come up with, I've got the Sam James cowl and plenum and I'm not happy with the neoprene junction either.
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05-06-2016, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Dogwood Airpark (VA42)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airguy
Very interested in what you guys come up with, I've got the Sam James cowl and plenum and I'm not happy with the neoprene junction either.
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I'm using a James cowl on the RV-10 as well. The first time I did the neoprene junction I was not thrilled with the looks. It worked for four years but they were not pretty. I called Will James and he walked me through the process (which was as provided in the instructions but I was too bull headed to follow them). I just finished doing a new set and they came out perfect. Total time was less than an hour.
The part I kept tripping on was making the butt joint alone the seam of the cylinder as I figured it would not hold. This time I did a pull test after gluing a couple of scrap pieces and was surprised to find the neoprene ripped before the joint failed.
Here is the contact adhesive I used and recommend: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002DZRFIK/...140_TE_3p_dp_1
Carl
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