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Old 04-27-2016, 08:22 AM
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Default Lycoming Mandatory SB 612 IO-360-M Series

Lycoming put out a "Mandatory" service bulletin No. 612, dated 5 April 2016, that requires replacing dipstick P/N LW-16783-18 with PN LW-14760 as the original dipstick "incorrectly gives higher oil level indication when the oil level is actually less than 5 quarts (5 liters)."
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:31 AM
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Sounds as though they might help with cost. Will post result for my IO-360 Exp M1B by Lycon...
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:31 AM
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Would the dipstick reading vary between a TD and nose wheel RV due to the angle of the fuselage on the ground?

What angle does Lycoming assume the engine is at when you check it?
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Old 04-27-2016, 12:13 PM
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Lycoming put out a "Mandatory" service bulletin No. 612, dated 5 April 2016, that requires replacing dipstick P/N LW-16783-18 with PN LW-14760 as the original dipstick "incorrectly gives higher oil level indication when the oil level is actually less than 5 quarts (5 liters)."
My vintage 2007 Mattituck M1B clone came with an unmarked dipstick. I had to level the airplane, account for the filter volume and then add oil two quarts at a time and mark the stick at various levels myself. I'd be interested to compare my dipstick to one of the recommended ones as well as the older factory marked ones.

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Old 04-27-2016, 12:38 PM
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My vintage 2007 Mattituck M1B clone came with an unmarked dipstick. I had to level the airplane, account for the filter volume and then add oil two quarts at a time and mark the stick at various levels myself. I'd be interested to compare my dipstick to one of the recommended ones as well as the older factory marked ones.

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Why on earth would you level the airplane first? If you had a tailwheel or trike (on a level floor) with properly serviced tires and struts as applicable, it would make sense to mark the dipstick.

I'm not leveling a tailwheel or trike airplane to check the oil before flight....


When I calibrated the a digital fuel gauge in a C177, I leveled the airplane on jacks. When I fabricated the fuel tank dipstick, It was on level ground with properly serviced tires & strut.

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Old 04-27-2016, 12:40 PM
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Just spoke with Mark @Lycoming tech support. He was very pleasant and suggested checking with Lycon to see what they have for info on dipstick they installed. Also will check part # on the dipstick I have; may save a call. Mark did not rule out warranty coverage if I have the original part # (LW 1`6783-18). Will follow up.
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Old 04-27-2016, 12:56 PM
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Would the dipstick reading vary between a TD and nose wheel RV due to the angle of the fuselage on the ground?

What angle does Lycoming assume the engine is at when you check it?
I was surprised to find very little difference when I did this a few years back.
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:24 PM
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I saw this earlier today and took a few minutes in a hectic day to call Vans to see if they would be the "authorized Lycoming distributor" since I bought it through them. Barb had not heard of the issue yet and was appreciative of the heads up. I could not stay on the phone long enough to get a formal answer since she needed to check with others. I hope to check in with her Thursday.

I have a couple of questions yet to be answered.

1) The SB says to identify the current part. So....how do I do that? Is the part number actually embossed on it somewhere? I have not been to the plane yet to see for myself.

2) How much of a level change is this really? I have not noticed any descrepancies in level indication after the 12 oil changes I have done so far. It shows what I put in and then drops a bit when I fill the new filter after the first start. Exactly as I would expect. Far from clear to me that the current dipstick in my YIO-360-M1B is actually wrong.
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Is the part number actually embossed on it somewhere? I have not been to the plane yet to see for myself.
That is correct, I am not at the hanger to look at it now but I have seen the part number on it, at least on the stick portion but can't recall if there is any part number on the cap portion. I will be checking mine this weekend and it would be great if VANs can provide it since I bought my engine thru them too.
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:31 PM
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Yep...it's embossed on the stick. Stopped by the hangar to verify I have the one that needs replacement.

Please let us know what Van's says, as I also bought mine through Van's as part of the engine/prop combination deal.

Like others, I'm a bit stymied as to how far off the measurement could actually be...plus I always add a quart when it gets down around 5 quarts, anyway (more than 6 and it just dumps it out the breather). Oil analyses are always great, so I must be doing something right .
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