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Old 03-20-2016, 05:12 PM
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Long time lurker, first time poster.
Several fellow builders have provided encouragement to share my story even though posting is not one of my strong points.
I completed the finishing kit in late 2013 and then put the build on hold while retiring, selling our house, moving, and building a new house at GE05 Gibson Field (Blue Mountain Air Park). The aircraft was stored in a garage for about 2 years. After moving the aircraft to it's new home, found that a family of mice found the RV-12 to be a very accomodating. After being evicted, started to assess the damage and decided to remove the entire bottom of the aircraft (bottom skin and all corner skins). The picture below shows the extensive damage on the skins. There is also extensive corrosion on the flanges of the floor and baggage ribs where the skins attached. No way I would have been able to clean that up without removing the skins. Currently in process of cleaning and treating affected areas (clean with Acteone, remove primer, sand to remove corrosion, treat with Alumiprep 33 and Alodine 1201, and reprime). Plan to order new parts this week and start reassembly over the next couple of weeks. I did a cursory look at wiring and brake lines and do not see any obvious damage from chewing but do need to do a more detailed inspection.
The lesson for me is to make sure the aircraft is protected from the little critters going forward. What are others doing to protect the aircraft from these freeloaders?

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Old 03-20-2016, 05:23 PM
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I found Goo Gone to be a better mice s**t/p**s remover than acetone.


I also found that the AKZO primer (and any similar epoxy primer I would think) was impervious to the mouse sh*t/pi*s
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:02 PM
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I'm not sure cleaning / stripping will take care of it. Think about the rivets and lap joints on that bottom skin. I would rebuild from new. Be careful where and how you store aircraft parts.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:59 PM
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I found mice evidence in my Bonanza at an annual several years ago. At the suggestion of my mechanic, I now keep a small box of poison on each tire. Even if the mice get in they will die and dehydrate. No problems after using this method.
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:43 PM
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I would heed this advice if it were mine. You might find the cost of some new pieces won't really cost all that much.

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I'm not sure cleaning / stripping will take care of it. Think about the rivets and lap joints on that bottom skin. I would rebuild from new. Be careful where and how you store aircraft parts.
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:48 PM
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wow, all from those little buggers..
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:30 AM
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Long time lurker, first time poster.
Daniel, welcome aboard the good ship VAF

Seems you need a cat...
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:09 AM
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Do you have any builders insurance?
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Old 03-21-2016, 04:56 AM
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Thanks for all of the replies. As clarification, the skins shown in the photo are being replaced with new parts - no plans to try and salvage. The affected lap joint areas are exposed with the skins removed and those are the areas being treated. Plan to use a corrosion inhibitor such as ACF-50 on all lap joints prior to reassembly.
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Old 03-21-2016, 05:54 AM
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always ,always keep snap traps baited in my hangar. if a mouse ever passes thru i will find out at the trap before he sets up shop in the plane.
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