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03-14-2016, 01:15 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Alabama
Posts: 127
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Hire a real estate attorney
Find out all you can via the methods mentioned, then before making an offer, hire a real estate attorney to look at the airpark's legal status and lot owners rights. I had a friend that was planning on purchasing a lot in a nearly fully developed marina with a private harbor. Turned out that none of the existing owners had any legal right to use the marina that they had been using for the previous decade. Developer and residences had to make changes to the to all the legal papers and status. It was complicated because it involved dozens of legal titles but in the end worked out. It was a can of worms that everyone was unaware of and if just one person wanted to be a pain, it would have been an issue for everyone. This error was discovered by the closing attorney.
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03-14-2016, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Ask for a copy of the HOA agreement. Read and understand what's in it.
Ask about visitors, you personal liability, should someone crack up on your runway.
I wouldn't be so worried about the state owning the runway as Michigan has bought a few airports over the years to keep them open. (1D2 comes to mind.)
Ask about running around the field on golf carts, gators, etc.
What about fuel on the field? If none, what about fuel storage.
Lastly, are any residents attorneys? (We had a couple in the HOA I belonged to before moving to our airpark and not only were they a pain, they drove our HOA dues through the roof!) My apologies to any attorneys on this forum, but those two AH's did nothing but reinforce the stereotype!
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03-14-2016, 02:56 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Shorewood, Il.
Posts: 230
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Covenants.
There can be rules that dictate the kind/size/material of house/hangar you can build. The airpark I like by me has rules that make it so the house would be so high priced to build I can't afford it even if I was given a lot.
Someone may have already touched on this... Are all residents current on association dues. One park by me has non aviator residents that refuse to pay dues. This doubles the burden on those that do, and also adds a legal battle with legal fees, liens on those that don't pay, etc....
Mark
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03-16-2016, 08:47 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Westland, MI
Posts: 311
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So many awesome relplies! Thank you all. There's a lot to think about and a lot of questions that need asked
For those of you who mentioned Brighton-that was my first choice but nothing is available. I did talk to a guy who owns empty lots and he want 100G for a lot! No thanks.
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03-16-2016, 11:09 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 25
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03-16-2016, 12:57 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,516
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Look at GIS for this county. It will have parcel numbers, owners, taxes etc. You can see what the boundaries are for the parcels, rather than some guesses, or word of mouth. Also, covenants, I think, are needed to be filed with the county to be fully enforceable. That is my understanding for Illinois. grain of salt here.
Good luck, I am looking for the same but in a warmer climate than the midwest.
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03-16-2016, 01:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Westland, MI
Posts: 311
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Thanks Bill-I'd love a warmer climate too! Or somewhere not as dreary as Michigan in the winter. My other option is Hicks airfield in Dallas, TX.
My airline also had a base there so I wouldn't be opposed to moving. Not sure I'd like the TX climate though. Also, the brand new hangar home at Hicks is pretty expensive and I believe overpriced.
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03-16-2016, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 45G, Brighton, MI
Posts: 1,867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9GT
If you have not looked at 45G yet it is a bit closer for you. I hangered there a couple years and they have an active EAA chapter IIRC.
http://www.brightonairport.org/
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I've been on 45G for about 6 months now, but I'm currently without a fly able airplane, so I can't really say what it's like to fly out of here. I haven't heard of Horizon Lakes, but I'll be happy to ask the locals what they know about it.
I will have to say that Brighton seems to be what an airpark should be. We are solely owned by the owners of the homes and hangars on the field, the Brighton Airport Association. Owning a share of the airport and paying the $475 annual maintenance fee allows you to keep and fly an airplane our of the airport. The airport is public use, so anyone can use the airport without special permission. It is well maintained by volunteers, and this past winter it was always plowed before the county got around to plowing the streets.
The airport is fairly active; we do have an active EAA chapter on the field, and an ongoing Build-a-Plane RV-12. I haven't counted, but I estimate 15-20 homes on the airport, and at least a hundred privately owned hangars. My house is 16 years old and was one of the last homes built on the airport. There are 12 acres along the runway just north of me owned by one of our members, and I believe he has plans to ultimately develop more lots. Otherwise, you just have to keep an eye out for an existing home coming up for sale.
Mark, you are welcome to fly in any time and I'll be happy to show you around. We have a breakfast every Saturday morning at 8:30 at the clubhouse on the north end of the field. I'm out of town now, but I'll be back Friday. I'm in the RV White Pages.
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03-28-2016, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 45G, Brighton, MI
Posts: 1,867
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I hear rumors that there a house across the runway from me coming up for sale. If anyone is interested, I'll verify the rumor and get details and contact info.
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Miles (VAF# 1238, Paid up as of 2018)
RV-7 TU 904KM (reserved)
Wings Fitted and Finish Kit on site
Construction Log
Picasa: Empennage Album, Wings Album, Fuselage Album
1955 Cessna 170B flying since 1982
'To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.' -Unk.
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03-28-2016, 03:44 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Westland, MI
Posts: 311
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Is that on the east of west side of the field?
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