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03-10-2016, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DanH
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Ahaa moment, now I get it about one of your prior photos.
The black bar "in front" of the gear is a bearing retainer. Correct?
Is the electrical connector from the Mazda distributor also?
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010 
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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03-10-2016, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike S
The black bar "in front" of the gear is a bearing retainer. Correct?
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Correct.
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Is the electrical connector from the Mazda distributor also?
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No, it's an Amphenol AT series connector, interchangeable with Deutsch DT series. I really like 'em. High overall quality, and the terminals crimp to the wires just like an oversize D-sub pin. Even the tool is the same, but in a larger size.
http://www.waytekwire.com/products/1...AT-Connectors/
http://www.deutschconnector.com/prod...es_connectors/
As an old car guy, I know that most electrical problems are really connector problems.
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03-10-2016, 09:46 AM
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Deutsch----------havent heard of them in a long time.
I was a machinist for Deutsch back in the late 60s.
Yep, connector or ground issue were 90% of the problems for sure.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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03-10-2016, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DanH
Frankly, I like the OEM Ford module, as I figure it is far more hardened than any aftermarket control.
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Are you sure about that? Some aftermarket stuff is certified, others have been third party tested for vibration, EMI/RFI tolerance for use in military UAV applications where expensive sensor payloads are at risk. |
03-10-2016, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rv6ejguy
Are you sure about that? Some aftermarket stuff is certified, others have been third party tested for vibration, EMI/RFI tolerance for use in military UAV applications where expensive sensor payloads are at risk.
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You're right of course. I should have said "far more hardened than any certified, military grade aftermarket control available for about $100 brand new".
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03-10-2016, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DanH
You're right of course. I should have said "far more hardened than any certified, military grade aftermarket control available for about $100 brand new".
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Can't beat used OTS automotive hardware for the price point for sure.
With used, you could be fortunate that if it has lasted 10 years, it's going to last another 10 or 20 or unfortunate where a good portion of its life is already behind it...
Not all Ford electronics in the last decade have been great. The EDIS DOES have a good record in my experience and I especially approve of the ND pickups which are bulletproof in a fixed configuration- much more so than some other brands of OEM magnetic pickups which I consider unfit for aviation use unless you have two.
Some military applications are using COTS hardware/ software these days, well below the price range of Mil Spec electronics.
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03-10-2016, 09:33 PM
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Keep in mind that I'm not calling this a big success just yet. Let's fly it awhile.
BTW, not my first dance with OEM ignition parts. These are GM modules (actually NAPA TP45's), part of a dual ignition on a biplane in the 90's. Used ND reluctors for that one too. Fired two coils through an MSD coil joiner to single plugs. An earlier version was independent coil-per-plug. The really early version used Briggs and Stratton magnetos 
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03-10-2016, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DanH
Keep in mind that I'm not calling this a big success just yet. Let's fly it awhile.
BTW, not my first dance with OEM ignition parts. These are GM modules (actually NAPA TP45's), part of a dual ignition on a biplane in the 90's. Used ND reluctors for that one too. Fired two coils through an MSD coil joiner to single plugs. An earlier version was independent coil-per-plug. The really early version used Briggs and Stratton magnetos
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Yeah we built stuff like this for race cars using HEI modules eons ago and it worked just fine with the junkyard parts which was all we could afford back then. Brought back some good memories here. BTW, like your machine work and the creative cover design. |
03-11-2016, 05:31 AM
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crank gear
Dan the crank gear looks like a simple way to go will the pickup work also with 3/16 aluminum or does the pickup need steel.
Thanks Bob
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03-11-2016, 03:33 PM
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Reluctor wheels have to be made of ferrous material.
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