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01-26-2016, 10:34 AM
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Vyton o-ring not sealing in the cold
I replaced stock tank drains o-rings with vyton ones. Yesterday I noticed that after fuel sampling both drains were wet and I couldn't "work" them shut. I've read somewhere in the forums that vyton isn't tolerant to lower temperatures but couldn't find the topic. Should I switch back to regular O-rings? I burn a fair amount of ethanol laden fuel.
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01-26-2016, 10:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by Vlad
I replaced stock tank drains o-rings with vyton ones. Yesterday I noticed that after fuel sampling both drains were wet and I couldn't "work" them shut. I've read somewhere in the forums that vyton isn't tolerant to lower temperatures but couldn't find the topic. Should I switch back to regular O-rings? I burn a fair amount of ethanol laden fuel.
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Are you at a temp of -15F or below?
http://www.marcorubber.com/materialguide.htm
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01-26-2016, 10:38 AM
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01-26-2016, 10:39 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Fun with fire
Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter 😀
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01-26-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by simpkinsona
Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter 😀
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And as a bonus it will de-ice the wings in a hurry!
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01-26-2016, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Montreal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simpkinsona
Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter
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Nowhere near enough heat in a lighter. Plumber's torch is much more effective.
Notice: The owners of this forum take no responsibility for the strange sense of humor of some posters
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01-26-2016, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lake Country, B.C. Canada
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more direct method.....MUCH safer eh!
Surely someone will recommend just putting your lips around the leaking drain, and blow?
( caution, fuel may contain lead, a chemical known to the state of common sense to contain compounds causing stoopid ideas like this!)
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01-26-2016, 11:21 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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Buna-N o-rings will have more flexibility at low temperature than viton. Viton only remains flexible down to about 5 degF. Buna-N should be good to -22degF.
To add a bit more, viton is a trade name for FKM elastomer, which happens to be the same class of material used in the space shuttle booster o-rings up to and including STS-51L (Challenger's last flight), the famous failure of which was written up to low temperature related stiffness (proximate, not root cause).
Buna-N is a type of nitrile rubber which also has good chemical resistance and lower temperature tolerance .
Both Buna-N and Viton are compatible with ethanol containing fuels.
Last edited by 1001001 : 01-26-2016 at 11:30 AM.
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01-26-2016, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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beaten by two hours!
Quote:
Originally Posted by simpkinsona
Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter 😀
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Hey - I was going to say that! Molotov, and all...
-Stormy
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01-26-2016, 01:48 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I have gone away from the Viton on my brake calipers because of exposure to cold, so yes, I think I'd try Buna-N if you want to keep something there year-around.
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