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Old 01-26-2016, 10:34 AM
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Default Vyton o-ring not sealing in the cold

I replaced stock tank drains o-rings with vyton ones. Yesterday I noticed that after fuel sampling both drains were wet and I couldn't "work" them shut. I've read somewhere in the forums that vyton isn't tolerant to lower temperatures but couldn't find the topic. Should I switch back to regular O-rings? I burn a fair amount of ethanol laden fuel.
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:36 AM
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I replaced stock tank drains o-rings with vyton ones. Yesterday I noticed that after fuel sampling both drains were wet and I couldn't "work" them shut. I've read somewhere in the forums that vyton isn't tolerant to lower temperatures but couldn't find the topic. Should I switch back to regular O-rings? I burn a fair amount of ethanol laden fuel.
Are you at a temp of -15F or below?

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Old 01-26-2016, 10:38 AM
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:39 AM
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Default Fun with fire

Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter 😀
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:43 AM
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Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter 😀
And as a bonus it will de-ice the wings in a hurry!
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Old 01-26-2016, 10:43 AM
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Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter ��
Nowhere near enough heat in a lighter. Plumber's torch is much more effective.

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Old 01-26-2016, 10:56 AM
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Default more direct method.....MUCH safer eh!

Surely someone will recommend just putting your lips around the leaking drain, and blow?
( caution, fuel may contain lead, a chemical known to the state of common sense to contain compounds causing stoopid ideas like this!)
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Old 01-26-2016, 11:21 AM
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Buna-N o-rings will have more flexibility at low temperature than viton. Viton only remains flexible down to about 5 degF. Buna-N should be good to -22degF.

To add a bit more, viton is a trade name for FKM elastomer, which happens to be the same class of material used in the space shuttle booster o-rings up to and including STS-51L (Challenger's last flight), the famous failure of which was written up to low temperature related stiffness (proximate, not root cause).

Buna-N is a type of nitrile rubber which also has good chemical resistance and lower temperature tolerance .


Both Buna-N and Viton are compatible with ethanol containing fuels.

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Old 01-26-2016, 12:38 PM
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Just heat the leaking sump valves with a lighter 😀
Hey - I was going to say that! Molotov, and all...

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Old 01-26-2016, 01:48 PM
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I have gone away from the Viton on my brake calipers because of exposure to cold, so yes, I think I'd try Buna-N if you want to keep something there year-around.
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