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01-24-2016, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Jamestown,NY
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deburring question
I'm practicing before I put actual airplane parts at risk and can't figure out how much deburring is OK. This pic shows a ridge around a hole. I have a deburring tool but it doesn't seem to take the ridge off without extreme pressure and many revolutions. I even put the deburring head in my cordless drill and it still doesn't want to touch the ridge. I have also used an oversize drill bit and that seems to work better but countersinks the hole slightly. Is that OK?[IMG]  [/IMG]
Here is my practice creation. I also learned turning the pressure down on the gun helps immensely. I was running at about 60 psi and turned it down to 30 and had much better results.
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01-24-2016, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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My guess is that the practice hole in your first photo was made in some scrap aluminum of unknown material type?
It is typical of a hole drilled in very soft aluminum, but not typical of what you will get most of the time in aircraft aluminum. In soft material it does make a rather pronounced bur on the punch through side which is difficult to remove without countersinking a bit like you described.
Holes drilled in in 2024-T3 aluminum will not have a bur that is so pronounced, and it will remove much easier. Holes in 6061-T6 (which is softer) are somewhat like your example but still usually not as bad.
Is your deburring tool cutter new? The performance difference between a used and a new cutter is substantial. Particularly on softer material.
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01-24-2016, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Madison, WI
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On your final pieces you definitely don't want larger burrs as they can be stress risers, make the pieces not sit flat, and cause issues with the dimple. As rvbuilder said, this may be material or it may be the tool. If you plan on priming that area you can also attempt to scotch-brite the burr off.
Which deburring tool are you using? I have had good success with both the avery and Cleaveland ones.
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01-24-2016, 12:35 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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I use drill bits (quite a bit larger than hole) to take out larger burrs like that. Just spin them with your fingers and it should take it off quickly.
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01-24-2016, 03:16 PM
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I'm using the speed driver "dog leg" deburring tool. It was ordered brand new from Brown tool. The part in question is a wing rib. I guess the ridge must be caused by my drilling through the pre punched hole. I discovered some not so sharp drill bits in my inventory so do you think maybe that could be causing such a big ridge?
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01-24-2016, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Dull bits
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Originally Posted by dwranda
I'm using the speed driver "dog leg" deburring tool. It was ordered brand new from Brown tool. The part in question is a wing rib. I guess the ridge must be caused by my drilling through the pre punched hole. I discovered some not so sharp drill bits in my inventory so do you think maybe that could be causing such a big ridge?
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Yep.
Buy some reamers. Almost no burr and perfectly round holes.
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01-24-2016, 03:58 PM
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What the man with the hat said: Get some reamers.
Call me Mr. Particular, but when I make new holes (eg. leading edge joint plate etc.), I drill them with either #41 and #31 and use the #40 and #30 reamer as well, resulting in less need for aggressive deburring.
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01-24-2016, 04:01 PM
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Excellent! Thanks guys!!!
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01-24-2016, 05:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Park Ridge, NJ
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Put the deburring bit in a cordless screwdriver/drill and put the setting on low. it works very well for me, i allow it to spin 1-2 revolutions.
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01-24-2016, 05:38 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Mr Particular
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Originally Posted by nilberg
What the man with the hat said: Get some reamers.
Call me Mr. Particular, but when I make new holes (eg. leading edge joint plate etc.), I drill them with either #41 and #31 and use the #40 and #30 reamer as well, resulting in less need for aggressive deburring.
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Make that two Mr Particulars. I do the same.
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
Disclaimer
I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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