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12-17-2015, 06:31 PM
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<40hr Phase 1?
Say one installs a used certified engine and prop out of say.....a Mooney or similar with the original engine data tag, will you be granted a 20 Hr test period?
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12-17-2015, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bret
Say one installs a used certified engine and prop out of say.....a Mooney or similar with the original engine data tag, will you be granted a 20 Hr test period?
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IIRC, the regulations call for a 25 hour fly-off with a certified engine/prop.
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12-17-2015, 06:41 PM
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I do know of one plane that is flying with an engine & prop out of one of the SnF tornado damaged airplanes that was given the lower Phase 1 time by the local FSDO because the engine-prop combination came out of a "certified" airplane. Granted, that airplane was certified as an E-AB.
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12-17-2015, 07:06 PM
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I can't be the only one with Vans YIO-360-M1B and Hartzell to get a 25 hr phase 1 from the FSDO.
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12-17-2015, 07:39 PM
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My Rocket, my Hiperbipe and the -8 I fly were all given a 25 hour phase 1.
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12-17-2015, 08:04 PM
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Any code words?
Any chapter, verse, or precise answers to get this (25hrs) ? I have the same engine, Bill, and a Hartzell, approved, prop.
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12-17-2015, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BillL
Any chapter, verse, or precise answers to get this (25hrs) ? I have the same engine, Bill, and a Hartzell, approved, prop.
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At the present time, FAA Order 8130.2H has what you are looking for.
Go to 461. Flight Test Areas.
c. Assigned Flight Test Area.
(1)
Page 4-70 says:
"(1) Amateur-built aircraft issued original airworthiness certificates should be limited to operation within an assigned flight test area for a minimum of 25 hours when a type-certificated engine/propeller combination is installed. A minimum of 40 hours is required when a non-type-certificated engine, propeller, or engine/propeller combination is installed. Furthermore, if the type-certificated engine, propeller, or engine/propeller combination installed have been altered in a way that differs from an approved type design in a TCDS, a minimum of 40 hours will be required. "
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12-17-2015, 08:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV6_flyer
At the present time, FAA Order 8130.2H has what you are looking for.
Go to 461. Flight Test Areas.
c. Assigned Flight Test Area.
(1)
Page 4-70 says:
"(1) Amateur-built aircraft issued original airworthiness certificates should be limited to operation within an assigned flight test area for a minimum of 25 hours when a type-certificated engine/propeller combination is installed. A minimum of 40 hours is required when a non-type-certificated engine, propeller, or engine/propeller combination is installed. Furthermore, if the type-certificated engine, propeller, or engine/propeller combination installed have been altered in a way that differs from an approved type design in a TCDS, a minimum of 40 hours will be required. " |
Thanks Gary, but the paperwork on the YIO-360M1B is "experimental" and not "type certified" right?
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12-17-2015, 09:04 PM
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So to further and complicate my original question, if I flew the plane 25, then installed EFII, would I need to go back into testing, and or file paperwork?
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12-17-2015, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rzbill
I can't be the only one with Vans YIO-360-M1B and Hartzell to get a 25 hr phase 1 from the FSDO.
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You may well be the only one. The 'Y' is not certified. The FAA or DAR made a mistake. |
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