How cheap can I get ADSB for if...

[Flyingleap]

Mike,
I agree, the Trig is very popular with many. I always read the manual first before any purchase. It did seem rather odd not being able to accommodate any baud rate or send receive differences. I'd rather have the same "builder" of equipment in this case and the ADS-B communication complexity. Single phone call when there is a a problem, that's all. It's just me. Sorry to offend.
John

[David-aviator]

Originally Posted by pierre smith

I have a Garmin 430W and an encoded GT327 in my -10.

Adsb out is all I want. I'll use my eyes for the "in" part.

Best,

I tend to agree Pierre.

Scanning is work but if one does it diligently you will see airplanes that pose a threat. WWII fighter pilots lived by this premise.

We are a bit spoiled, expecting an electronic scanning device (or ADS-B) to do the work for us.

[BobTurner]

Adsb-in also gives you radar and TFRs. Sometimes those things pop up after you've departed (forest fires). And a picture is worth a 1000 words.

[Mike H]

Originally Posted by Flyingleap

Mike,
I agree, the Trig is very popular with many. I always read the manual first before any purchase. It did seem rather odd not being able to accommodate any baud rate or send receive differences. I'd rather have the same "builder" of equipment in this case and the ADS-B communication complexity. Single phone call when there is a a problem, that's all. It's just me. Sorry to offend.
John

No offense taken.

[rmartingt]

Originally Posted by BobTurner

Adsb-in also gives you radar and TFRs. Sometimes those things pop up after you've departed (forest fires). And a picture is worth a 1000 words.

Yes, forget the traffic (for the moment, anyway)... the weather datalink is tremendously helpful. I can check the METAR at three different alternate field options and scope out the weather an hour ahead of me, and be laying in my new course, in less time than it takes me to look up the frequency for FSS. And I can see it right there, instead of trying to listen to someone describe it over the radio.

That said, the point of the traffic is to augment a visual scan, not replace it. Even the best of us gets the sun in our eyes, and none of us can see through the floor of our airplane (unless you've made some interesting mods).

[jclark]

Originally Posted by rmartingt

Yes, forget the traffic (for the moment, anyway)... the weather datalink is tremendously helpful. I can check the METAR at three different alternate field options and scope out the weather an hour ahead of me, and be laying in my new course, in less time than it takes me to look up the frequency for FSS. And I can see it right there, instead of trying to listen to someone describe it over the radio.

That said, the point of the traffic is to augment a visual scan, not replace it. Even the best of us gets the sun in our eyes, and none of us can see through the floor of our airplane (unless you've made some interesting mods).

Pierre,

I have a Garmin 400W (430W GPS minus the nav and comm) in the RV6 coupled with a Trig TT-22. It has its own control hed that fits into a 2 1/4" hole (or if you have appropriate EFIS equipment, it can be controlled by that.)

I have a Garmin GTN 650 in the RV8 coupled to a Trig TT-31.

I know that you said cheapest but I would say also consider the TT-31. It will cost a little more than the TT-31 and as I recall a bit less than the 330ES.

The 430W + 330ES is an obvious paring that solves all the problems. Just saying that in the same space in the panel, the TT-31 will work just fine as well.

Now to AUGMENT ...

Since installing ADS-B OUT and IN, I cnnot remember the number of times wherein even with my Mk II eyeballs focussed outside, I was NOT able to see traffic nor was I warned by ATC of traffic that SHOWED UP on the EFIS as a result of ADS-B!

Also, I find that OFTEN TIMES I monitor traffic that pops up and is coming my way but can never see it until it is within 2 MILES of me!

Finally, I had traffic coming at me (12 o'clock) and I was passing right on the edge of Madison, WI and got NO TRAFFIC advisory until the last minute. Even then I did NOT see the aircraft. I was though, prepared to evade as I say it on the EFIS.

So in summary, ADS-B IN for "augmentation" is far more valuable to me than I ever thought that it would be.

Just one person's view (or sometimes lack thereof).

James

[roadrunner20]

After recently installing a new ads-b in & out system...

I am absolutely amazed in how much traffic is around me.
I'm flying underneath & just outside the Tampa class B.

After 2 test flights, I've sought out traffic, at a comfortable altitude below, in trying to asses when I would see the traffic knowing it's altitude & direction of flight.
I'm now thankful for the system 2 mile alerts I'm receiving. Even when I know of where traffic is coming, it's not easy to locate especially with haze.

I'm already enjoying flying with this system. BTW, I'm also using the GTX-327 for reporting output.