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10-14-2015, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chesterfield, Missouri
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Originally Posted by Walt
Just for the record, Freeflight's FDL-978-Lite UAT ($1995) is not "experimental", it is a fully certified TSO'd unit eligible for installation in certified or experimental aircraft. L-3 also offers a certified UAT for just $1799! Both have built in GPS.
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Walt, would my European approved Becker 150 watt mode S transponder work with either of these systems for now or would I get a letter from the FAA to cease and desist?
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10-14-2015, 09:40 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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Originally Posted by David-aviator
Walt, would my European approved Becker 150 watt mode S transponder work with either of these systems for now or would I get a letter from the FAA to cease and desist?
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Two issues here, the Becker will not digitally control either unit (a work around is possible here) but more importantly is the issue noted below, I'd have to look into this further to give you an answer.
"UAT systems with Mode S transponders. Do not install a UAT ADS-B OUT system which has the capability to transmit a random 24-bit address in an aircraft which also has a Mode S transponder unless the random 24-bit feature is disabled. The ATC automation system would interpret the different 24-bit addresses as two separate aircraft, and alert controllers to a conflict that does not actually exist."
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10-14-2015, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fort Worth area
Posts: 97
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Interesting Thread
I will be contemplating my options in the next 4 years as the avionics industry continues to develop affordable solutions for my RV8. I also have a newly restored 1941 Taylorcraft BC12-65 that will take me anywhere I need to go with the dollar investment roughly equal to a full glass modern ADS-B compliant RV panel.
After retiring from two flying careers, both military and civil, I am content to move back into the slow lane and let the big spenders pass by.
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Jerry Kinman, VAF 170
Keller, TX (T67)
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10-15-2015, 08:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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Say, Walt.
I have a 430W in my -10. and a certified GTX 327 encoded transponder.
How cheap can I get by with only ADSB out? I'll use my eyes for the 'In' part.
Thanks,
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10-15-2015, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,767
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Pierre,
I have the same equipment. I think the least expensive solution is to sell the 327; replace it with a Trig mode SES (22 or 31); get a software upgrade on the 430W so it puts out ADSB+. If you want ADSBin there are lots of $500 boxes, depends on what you have in your panel for a display. I'm lucky that GRT supports a remote TT22 for $2200, minus what I get for the 327; plus lots of 'in' choices. The Navworx EXP system is pretty similar in cost, remembering that it needs you to add antennas.
As you say 'in' is optional, but it doesn't add much to the cost. And NexRad is, inho, worth the cost. I dropped xm wx so the 'in' box, in my mind, is 'free'!
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