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07-03-2015, 08:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: St-Jerome,Quebec,Canada
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LPV APPROACHS/ WASS
Hello Listers
First : Happy Independance Day to all our US Friends
Second; Today I was looking at GPS/ LPV Approachs and notice that all of them have ( Jepps anyway ) in the upper left corner a square with the mention '' WASS, Ch *****, W-**A ' which I assume are for WASS/LPV approach, am I right on this ( never done a LPV approach yet )
Is this info required to be entered anywhere in your Wass GPS prior to doing the approach?
A friend with a GNS 480 in his Grumman would like to know.
Thank you for your imputs
Bruno
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07-03-2015, 09:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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The channels auto tunes in our aircraft when the specific approach is entered into our FMS.
The W = WAAS
The number E.G. - 05 = Runway 5
The letter "A" = This is the first WAAS approach to runway 05
W-05A will show on our PFD when we are on the approach.
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07-03-2015, 09:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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LPV Approachs
Thanks John
I'll pass the info to my friend.
Bruno
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07-03-2015, 09:12 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern California
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WAAS Channels
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmilingJack
The channels auto tunes in our aircraft when the specific approach is entered into our FMS.
The W = WAAS
The number E.G. - 05 = Runway 5
The letter "A" = This is the first WAAS approach to runway 05
W-05A will show on our PFD when we are on the approach.
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With the Garmin 4XXW/5XXW, the WAAS channels auto tune and are not shown on the normal moving map displays. The need to know this information is essentially transparent to the end user.
Skylor
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07-03-2015, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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GPS APPROACHS
Thanks Skylor
He has a GNS 480 in his Grumman so it should be the same.
Thanks
Bruno
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07-04-2015, 06:36 AM
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Some FMS systems use the channel to select the approach. I seem to recall there's a section in the AIM about it. You can ignore it.
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07-04-2015, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Lpv Approachs
Hi Todd
Well that's good to know.
Should be starting to do Lpv Approachs in the big bird soon so I should find out where to insert this number in the FMS.
Thanks
Bruno
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07-10-2015, 09:35 PM
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With lotsa FMS, you select the approach and the channel never shows up. It's lots easier and more error resistant that way.
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07-12-2015, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Some people many, many years ago envisioned the possibility of WAAS/LPV receivers for retrofit in ancient airliners. They proposed that it should be possible to have a control head that was the same size as some of the very small VOR/ILS control heads that some older aircraft have. The only interface would be a means to select the five digit approach channel using a double-stacked knob, similar to the way VOR or ILS frequencies are selected.
I was party to some preliminary discussions with one manufacturer that was working on a prototype for such a WAAS/LPV retrofit package, but I don't think they ever finished it. I believe they concluded the market was too small to justify the development cost.
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07-12-2015, 04:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Horton
Some people many, many years ago envisioned the possibility of WAAS/LPV receivers for retrofit in ancient airliners. They proposed that it should be possible to have a control head that was the same size as some of the very small VOR/ILS control heads that some older aircraft have. The only interface would be a means to select the five digit approach channel using a double-stacked knob, similar to the way VOR or ILS frequencies are selected.
I was party to some preliminary discussions with one manufacturer that was working on a prototype for such a WAAS/LPV retrofit package, but I don't think they ever finished it. I believe they concluded the market was too small to justify the development cost.
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Ahh yes....I remember that. Thanks for making me feel old
I remember the company I worked for in 1989 purchased an S-76B and one of the options we put on it was an "MLS" system. It wasn't installed completely, but the primus (maybe Sperry back then) had a combination of buttons to get you into the screen. We would somehow get it in MLS mode and not be able to get it back out
I guess that was the precursor for LPV....???
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