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Old 06-29-2015, 04:35 PM
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For those looking for a great deal from Garmin, have they ever presented a product that was less expensive then their competition?

Just sayin'
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:50 PM
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You know, I don't get worked up about too many issues but this is one that will definitely have me writing and calling my Congressman. I find it completely unacceptable that the FAA would deny critical traffic information to users that don't have a certified system. My engineering training tells me there should be ways to implement a quality or certainty factor for the inputs to the system that would allow controllers to understand the degree of confidence in any aircraft reporting on the system. That is no different from the current architecture where a non-squawker is only seen on raw radar. The controller might not see a raw target at all but, if he does, the observation provides valuable information. At a very minimum, we should categorize non-compliant ADS-B subscribers as 'raw' data and allow them participate. Denying non-compliant users access to the best information is not just wrong, I think it would be criminal. The first mid-air where the FAA refused that valuable information to a capable subscriber will be a landmark case.

For goodness sake FAA, apply the reasonableness rule to this one!
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:04 PM
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I put in a Freeflight system that provides ADS-B Out and, through my iPad, ADS-B In. As I understand it experimental must demonstrate performance equal to the TSO. I use the same system STC'd in my Cherokee. I think I'm covered.

Let me say this about ADS-B: it is a wonderful tool for avoiding traffic conflicts. Through my use I have concluded that I can't reliably spot traffic until it is within 2 miles. After two years I have come to regard ADS-B as a valuable friend in the cockpit.
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:56 AM
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Check out Dynon's new 2020-compliant GPS at: http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yab...1437392085/0#0
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:10 AM
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Check out Dynon's new 2020-compliant GPS at: http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yab...1437392085/0#0

Oh thank God (Or rather Dynon/AFS)! This is exactly what I need.

And just 2 days ago I trimmed the wires and installed the GPS puck. oh well, out it comes.
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Old 07-20-2015, 10:26 AM
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Got to love the model number they came up with ....SV-GPS-2020...finally product numbering that makes sense!
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Old 07-20-2015, 02:20 PM
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And just 2 days ago I trimmed the wires and installed the GPS puck. oh well, out it comes.
Why take it out? Instal the 2020 unit as primary and connect the old one as a backup GPS.

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Old 07-20-2015, 02:23 PM
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Why take it out? Instal the 2020 unit as primary and connect the old one as a backup GPS.

Because I won't have anything to connect it too.
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Old 07-20-2015, 03:53 PM
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Why take it out? Instal the 2020 unit as primary and connect the old one as a backup GPS.
From the Dynon FAQ site:

"I already have a SkyView/AF-5000 system. Do I have to tear apart my aircraft?

No: It couldn?t be easier to retrofit. If you are already using the SV-GPS-250 as your position source, it?s truly a drop-in plug-and-play replacement. The SV-GPS-2020 uses the same four wires and has the same mounting pattern. If you have an unused serial port on your system, you can opt to add the SV-GPS-2020 without removing your existing SV-GPS-250. This gains you a second GPS position source for redundancy/backup."
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Old 07-20-2015, 04:26 PM
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From the Dynon FAQ site:

"I already have a SkyView/AF-5000 system. Do I have to tear apart my aircraft?

No: It couldn?t be easier to retrofit. If you are already using the SV-GPS-250 as your position source, it?s truly a drop-in plug-and-play replacement. The SV-GPS-2020 uses the same four wires and has the same mounting pattern. If you have an unused serial port on your system, you can opt to add the SV-GPS-2020 without removing your existing SV-GPS-250. This gains you a second GPS position source for redundancy/backup."
That's what I was thinking...but for the RV12 owners, the question will be where does it need to be mounted to make the signal all legal like...I sure don't want to be staring at it outside the front window....maybe a custom wider or longer GPS antenna tray in the engine compartment?

Or just take the old one out and sell it here?
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