ADSB Compliance

[newamiga]

I don't know if you guys saw the Appareo new box they were showing off at SnF this year? It is basically a form factor very similar to the GTX 327 that combines all of the transponder functions with a WAAS GPS source and compliant ADSB out. They were saying around $3.5K I believe and availability around SnF next year. I am assuming that Garmin will bring out their own version of the same thing. It would be really nice to just slot out the 327 and slot in a compliant solution all in one box.

https://www.appareo.com/aviation/ads-b-out/


Carl

[Bill_H]

5 years in electronics? For the EAB-ELSA-SLSA world? Best to do NOTHING right now!

[Dave12]

Originally Posted by Bill_H

5 years in electronics? For the EAB-ELSA-SLSA world? Best to do NOTHING right now!

The absolute best advice you could take!

[Walt]

Originally Posted by Bill_H

5 years in electronics? For the EAB-ELSA-SLSA world? Best to do NOTHING right now!

Originally Posted by Dave12

The absolute best advice you could take!

I look at this a little differently, living and flying in a high density traffic area I find the traffic feature to be worth its weight in gold.

I equipped many years ago with basic TIS A after a near mid-air close to home base and now have full up ADS-B, bottom line for me, I think onboard traffic/weather is the best thing since slided bread and not having it would be almost unthinkable!

So if saving money is your biggest priority then yes waiting is likely to lead to cheaper alternatives, but if safety is your highest priority then why would you wait.

If Garmin comes out with a $1K certified GPS source for the G3X system it would be a no brainer for the light sport guys.

[Dgamble]

Originally Posted by Walt

I look at this a little differently, living and flying in a high density traffic area I find the traffic feature to be worth its weight in gold.

I equipped many years ago with basic TIS A after a near mid-air close to home base and now have full up ADS-B, bottom line for me, I think onboard traffic/weather is the best thing since slided bread and not having it would be almost unthinkable!

So if saving money is your biggest priority then yes waiting is likely to lead to cheaper alternatives, but if safety is your highest priority then why would you wait.

If Garmin comes out with a $1K certified GPS source for the G3X system it would be a no brainer for the light sport guys.

I'm not sure Bill was arguing against getting the ADSB unit now - he might have been saying don't worry about complying with a 2020 requirement in 2015. The ADSB as it stands today is excellent, but not compliant with a 2020 GPS requirement that may become less restrictive before it becomes active five years from now.

[Walt]

Originally Posted by Dgamble

I'm not sure Bill was arguing against getting the ADSB unit now - he might have been saying don't worry about complying with a 2020 requirement in 2015. The ADSB as it stands today is excellent, but not compliant with a 2020 GPS requirement that may become less restrictive before it becomes active five years from now.

Read this tread....
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=127138

[bhester]

Originally Posted by Walt

If Garmin comes out with a $1K certified GPS source for the G3X system it would be a no brainer for the light sport guys.

If it will work with the Garmin 327 that would be awesome but I think it is going to require a replacement of the 327 with the GTX 23 which will be an additional $2000. :-(

Keeping fingers crossed patiently waiting.

[todehnal]

Originally Posted by Walt

Read this tread....
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=127138

Wow Walt. It sure look like if Dynon doesn't come through with a certified replacement for our Skyview GPS, we are going to loose our ADS-B in traffic, and weather, in just six months. Sure hope they come through, or I will have wasted a bunch of money.

Tom

[Bill_H]

I have the Dynon Skyview, with Dynon ADSB-OUT transponder, And DYNON ADSB-IN box. So I (currently) get all ADSB-IN (traffic and weather) and send ADSB-OUT but based on the Dynon Skyview GPS source, which is (currently) not a 2020 compliant GPS source.

I think the GPS source rules are MASSIVELY STUPID for flying VFR - and IFR for that matter - and that basically "any" modern avionic GPS position source is "good enough."

I think the "2016 threat" (if true) to remove ADSB-IN services from planes like mine is also MASSIVELY STUPID.

I'll be at OSH2015, will have read up on the latest regarding this topic, and may ask a question that includes the phrase "MASSIVELY STUPID."

[Walt]

Originally Posted by bhester

If it will work with the Garmin 327 that would be awesome but I think it is going to require a replacement of the 327 with the GTX 23 which will be an additional $2000. :-(

Keeping fingers crossed patiently waiting.

When I say G3X system I "assume" one has the 23ES (mode S) transponder as well, the 327 is not ES and therefore cannot be used for ADS-B out.