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06-05-2015, 01:58 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
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Hat switch - love it, or not so much?
I've pretty much planned all along to put a 4-way hat switch on the pilot side stick for electric elevator and aileron trim. I have, however, heard a few mentions of people accidentally bumping those by accident. Of course it would be simpler, less work, faster build, etc. if I just put the trim on the panel. I don't plan on anything other than PTT and maybe A/P disconnect on the right side stick, and I'll be able to disable those.
What's the consensus? If you have trim on the stick, would you ever give it up? And whichever way you did it, do you wish you'd done it the other way?
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Omaha, NE
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06-05-2015, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I have trim on the stick and would never get it up, it is very intuitive and means you can focus on other tasks with out the need to move a hand and find the trim on the dash.
I have not found bumping the top hat to be an issue at all.
Cheers
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Sydney Australia
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06-05-2015, 02:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: KPYM
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Eddie, I have the Infinity sticks and the coolie hat switch.
Perhaps I have bumped it twice in 140 hours. I don't find it difficult to arm the AP after the unintended disco.
I am more cautious now and expect that it will happen less over time.
It is in the right place there, if you ask me.
My two...
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06-05-2015, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: houston, texas
Posts: 900
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2 cents also.
We have trim on the stick. It is the Ray Allen grip with PTT and the four little buttons on top for trim, up, down, side to side. Works great have no problem with it other than we are putting a new G3X system in and may want to upgrade to the grip with the two other switches on top. The CWS and go-round may need to be on the stick too. Have not gotten that fair just yet to make the call, but would not give up trim on the stick.
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06-05-2015, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Love my coolie hat---------even changed out the co-pilot side to include one there too.

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06-05-2015, 02:51 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eddieseve
I have trim on the stick and would never get it up, it is very intuitive and means you can focus on other tasks with out the need to move a hand and find the trim on the dash.
I have not found bumping the top hat to be an issue at all.
Cheers
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I agree. With the trim on the stick trimming the airplane is very intuitive and really reduces my workload, especially when doing an approach. This is workload reduction is very much appreciated in actual IMC. I have the Infinity grips with the coolie hat for my trim and would not want it anywhere else.
My 2 cents.

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06-05-2015, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,767
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I think most of the complaints have centered on passengers putting books, etc. on top of their stick and accidentally activating a button.
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06-05-2015, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 2,182
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I have a hat switch on my stick grip for trim on my RV6 and my friend's RV8 has the 4 separate buttons on the stick grip for trim. I kinda prefer the 4 buttons myself but the hat switch does work pretty well.
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06-05-2015, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
Love my coolie hat---------even changed out the co-pilot side to include one there too.

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Which stick is that Mike? I like it. Can't find it on the Spruce site.
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06-05-2015, 05:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 1,957
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sblack
Which stick is that Mike? I like it. Can't find it on the Spruce site.
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That there is the Tosten CS-8. Love mine!
http://tostenmanufacturing.com
And for the OP, another vote in favor of the hat switch for trim. Even put one in the panel on the right side for the passenger, so the stick can be removed without worrying about wires.
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Last edited by krw5927 : 06-05-2015 at 05:35 PM.
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