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Old 05-21-2015, 06:54 AM
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Default pmag power question

I am experiencing a slight power loss with the 1 pmag/1 slick mag combo.
Have checked timing on the slick and the pmag. Slick is at 25 degrees BTC and pmag set at TDC. I was able to see 150 ktas with two slick mags, now I am only able to get 146 ktas after testing for a couple of hours. I am running full power. I checked rpm drop in flight and got an 80 drop on the slick and a 50 drop on the pmag. Trying to understand the timing advance with the pmag but not sure if that is my problem. What other tests or factors should I be thinking about?
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:58 AM
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Are you running the "A" or "B" advance curve on the Pmag? How is the MP tube attached?
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:05 AM
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Are you running the "A" or "B" advance curve on the Pmag? How is the MP tube attached?
The "A" curve is what you should be running and requires a jumper between pins 2 and 3.

Also confirm that all your plug wires are seated properly.

Did you check the plug gaps before installing them?

Do you have a restrictor in the MAP line to smooth out the pulses?
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:09 AM
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Have checked that plug wires are firm and seated properly.
Plugs were gapped at .030 prior to installation.
Manifold pressure is taken from number 2 cylinder primer port. The only place that was possible to get a fitting. I had a primer line on that port and just used same tube line but cut, for the mp
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:12 AM
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Using A curve
No restrictor on MP
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:29 AM
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MADE A MISTAKE ON SIZE PULSATION-DAPANING SNUBBER. ORFICE ."004"
I believe I have a spare 1/8 male/ female restrictor ".020" from McMaster Carr. Will be at airport shortly to check. Sells for about $9 Will ship for $8. If interested text me at 714-501-1310
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:50 AM
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Using A curve
No restrictor on MP
It is possible that your timing is bouncing around with the MAP. Any chance you can put a restrictor in and report back?

The fitting mentioned above, a lawnmower fuel filter, or a drilled rivet should work.
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:02 PM
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I installed a rivet with a .025 hold drilled in it. Seems to have fixed the problem. The power is back to more than with two slick mags. Now I just have to get used to flying with EI.
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:22 PM
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That's good news!
At your next condition inspection, I recommend you open the plug gaps up to .032. (The range is .030 to .035.)

The larger the gap, the easier it can ignite leaner mixtures.
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Old 05-24-2015, 07:29 PM
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The fitting mentioned above, a lawnmower fuel filter, or a drilled rivet should work.
How do you install a lawnmower fuel filter to do the damping? Aren't they one way devices or does it matter?

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