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11-13-2006, 12:53 PM
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Rudder cable vs. plastic bushings
Just hooked up my rudder to the cables and rudder pedals this weekend. Pretty cool. That said, the first thing that I noticed was that the cables make a modest racket sliding through the bushings. Got me to thinking... over the course of time, is this an issue? Will the cable gradually wear through the bushings and perhaps rub against the alum. of the bulkheads? If so, is this just an annual inspection item to make sure that the steel and alum. never rub against each other?
Has anyone tried running the cable in a piece of plastictubing to give it added protection? Am I overthinking all this and worrying about nothing?
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11-13-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by alpinelakespilot2000
Am I overthinking all this and worrying about nothing?
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Yes.
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11-13-2006, 01:21 PM
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It is a valid question...
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Originally Posted by dan
Yes.
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Dan is too quick and too young....
This has been a question for a long, ...longggg... time, and this 1996 matronics posting on "good tips" might help....
Another idea that you might find useful. I got this idea from Andy Bajc
from Lincoln, Nebr. He built a RV-4 that won, I believe, "best metal"
airplane at Sun & Fun several years ago. He put a plastic "cable cover"
over his rudder cables. This material comes in 6 foot lengths, $1.00/piece
(from old invoice) and is slit the full length. It snaps over the cable.
When you use this you eliminate possible cable wear on the snap-in bushings
and therefor will probably never have to replace them. It also makes things
quieter as you eliminate the "sawing" noise echoing in the tail cone. I got
this cablecover from:
West Marine, 1-800-538-0775 (order), 1-800-262-8042 (customer service)
Bob Skinner RV-6
Cheap and easy...
Is it really needed? ... NO
Is it worth while? ... YOU DECIDE...
I'm going to do it...
gil in Tucson.... and this question was even asked to me this week by a RV-9A I did a TC visit on...
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Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
Last edited by az_gila : 11-13-2006 at 01:23 PM.
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11-13-2006, 02:03 PM
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Pretty "slick"
I put the sail cable covers on my rudder cables. They are somewhat difficult to put on. I used a bent 1/4" pointed rod to push into the (already split)sleeves ahead of pushing the cable into it. This helped to open the split for easier insertion...along with the help of a little Boelube.
I'm still building but I can tell you the cable action is very smooooth...and quiet!
Sam
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11-13-2006, 02:12 PM
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And if that stuff jams up somehow you'll be a ticked off dude! KISS
Hey, that sawing noise lets you know everything's "working!" 
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11-13-2006, 02:40 PM
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I used the slit cable covers up near the front
where the cable ends would catch on the
verticals just to the rear of the rudder pedals.
It is a good fix if you have the pedals angled
and to the rear because of a short inseam.
As far as hearing a sawing noise, no way.
My RV is the LOUDEST airplane I've ever been in.
I closed the canopy the other day before putting
my headset on and was surprised by the creaking
noise at the low temperatures.
I won't do that again,
Tom
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Luscombe 8A/E (sold after 35 years)
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11-13-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dan
And if that stuff jams up somehow you'll be a ticked off dude! KISS
Hey, that sawing noise lets you know everything's "working!" 
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Dan... I think there is a 10+ year history on it being OK....
Check out the covers on your next trip past a West Marine store in LA...
gil in Tucson
...but used to live 3/4 mile from the Marina del Rey West Marine store... 
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EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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11-13-2006, 07:44 PM
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Rudder cable guide
I bough some clear polycarbonate tube that was just large enough to fit through the existing guide holes and has an I.D. large enough to work the cable through (actually pull it through with a fish wire.) I ran the poly from the bulkhead by the rudder pedals back to the second bulkthead behind the luggage compartment. Works fine, looks fine and I don't have to worry about catching on anything.
Paul
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11-14-2006, 12:12 PM
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Dan-You've got a lot more hours on yours now than most. How did your snap bushings and rudder cable look at your last conditional? Any noticeable wear? I'm guessing no, from your response, but thought I'd check. Thanks.
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11-14-2006, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by alpinelakespilot2000
Dan-You've got a lot more hours on yours now than most. How did your snap bushings and rudder cable look at your last conditional? Any noticeable wear? I'm guessing no, from your response, but thought I'd check. Thanks.
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The wear wasn't notable. I'll be doing a condition inspection in a couple of months and will obviously yap back if I see anything notable. 1132 hours now and lots of rudder cycles...
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