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04-04-2015, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: McKinney, TX
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Step Tubing
Since Van's is closed today I thought I would ask here;
I need some of the step tubing, ACS calls it "Streamlined" tubing. I need to match the stuff my step is made from (8A).
So does anyone know what size it might be. I need to place the order today for other stuff as I leave the country Sunday and will not have a chance to call Van's before hand.
ACS page with the tube sizes: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...streamline.php
Thanks
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04-04-2015, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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One would think than
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Originally Posted by RVG8tor
Since Van's is closed today I thought I would ask here;
I need some of the step tubing, ACS calls it "Streamlined" tubing. I need to match the stuff my step is made from (8A).
So does anyone know what size it might be. I need to place the order today for other stuff as I leave the country Sunday and will not have a chance to call Van's before hand.
ACS page with the tube sizes: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...streamline.php
Thanks
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With all the A's flying out there that one helpful owner or builder, would walk to their RV Factory and measure one for you. I asked a year ago and could not get it either. I don't need a step so terminated the pursuit.
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Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
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04-04-2015, 07:06 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
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Tubing
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Originally Posted by BillL
With all the A's flying out there that one helpful owner or builder, would walk to their RV Factory and measure one for you. I asked a year ago and could not get it either. I don't need a step so terminated the pursuit.
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Mine are handy
Looks like this is a match.
1.6850.714.0491-1/43/40.62903-11600$13.60
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Last edited by wirejock : 04-04-2015 at 07:09 PM.
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04-04-2015, 07:27 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wirejock
Mine are handy
Looks like this is a match.
Major:1.6850"
Minor: .714"
Wall thickness .049"
1-1/43/40.62903-
Part number: 11600
Price: $13.60
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Thanks !!!
OK - I did a few calculations - and this section can handle 100 Ft-lb of bending moment at yield of 63.1 ksi. If someone could now tell us the length of the step and its offset distance from the fuse, then we will have a theoretical step weight capability.
Thanks.
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Bill
RV-7
Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
Last edited by BillL : 04-04-2015 at 09:11 PM.
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04-04-2015, 11:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Thanks
Thank you guys for running down the numbers. I will measure my step when I get back, if someone can run the numbers it would be fun to know what the mathematical limit is on the step as far as weight.
I can tell you I babied my step but i do weigh 260 and mine cracked in the first 100 hours.
Cheers
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04-05-2015, 08:29 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
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In My Opinion
An ordinary stress analysis will not show the actual strength of the step assembly, because the failures I've seen photographed and posted on VAF seem to indicate that the cracking is caused by local deflections in the tube wall.
The tube wall is fixed at the weld, while the overall tube permits deflection. I think - not verified by analysis, just a hypothesis, nothing more - that this causes high local stresses in the wall, leading to early fatigue failure.
Dave
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04-05-2015, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVG8tor
Thank you guys for running down the numbers. I will measure my step when I get back, if someone can run the numbers it would be fun to know what the mathematical limit is on the step as far as weight.
I can tell you I babied my step but i do weigh 260 and mine cracked in the first 100 hours.
Cheers
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FWIW Here are the pictures I took of the Vans step reinforcement.

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Bill
RV-7
Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
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04-06-2015, 09:56 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Yardley, PA
Posts: 1,334
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Others have suggested that vibration and prop wash are major culprits since it is the right side step that seems to crack most often (despite the fact that the left step usually gets more use). Some builders - including myself - have added some shot to the inside of the step to act as a vibration damper. Don't know if it will work, but don't think it will hurt.
http://http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=954284&postcount=12
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