Navworx ADS600-EXP ADS-B Install

[JBPILOT]

I hope you will take several pictures of your installation, along with the final wiring requirements. It would be much appreciated. I think several of us have wanted to see one finished ( RV-12) and a gov. report that it is working properly.

Thanks for your efforts.

[AllThumbs]

Marty: good question. We planned to run down the tunnel (away from xponder) and after along the right side lightening holes right into the aft section. I think it's about 10' but I'll measure today.

Tim: Worst case would be when both boxes are drawing xmit power and that's still not much amperage. The wire will handle 10 amps+ to the 327 and I'm sure Garmin would not say 1.5 unless they meant it. We MAY have to increase the 7.5 comm-stack fuse but I'm going to use the existing one to (experimentally) see if it blows.

John: nothing worth snapping pics of yet. My biggest coup so far is finding the GPS's receive line is already attached at the control panel and carried through to pin-5 of the DB-9 that goes to the transponder. Since this is a really confusing sentence I'll take a picture and annotate it to help.

The 90 degree requirement is to avoid stress to the antenna jack according to Bill. Remember that only one fitting is SMA, the others are TNC. The doc is not yet consistent about this info.

We've had no word on exactly when we'll get our box. I'm betting April as well.

[MartySantic]

Neil,

I sent you a PM. Send me your e-mail address and I will send the RV-12 electrical schematic as a .pdf file.

The schematic shows the yellow GPS wire is connected to Pin 5 of the GPS 9-Pin Dsub connector. Internally on the main control board there is a connection between Pin 5 of the GPS 9-Pin Dsub and Pin 5 of the Transponder 9-Pin Dsub connector. This pin is not connected. A wire is NOT shown going back to the transponder. Might be able to use as the connection between the GPS and ADS-B box.

[Mich48041]

3) The D180 contact pins are both taken (stall and spar pin) so I'm wiring a discrete LED to flash if UAT Fail asserts.

It is possible to use the D-180 EMS Pin 9 for another purpose instead of spar pin warning. The D-180 spar pin warning is redundant because there is already a big red light on the instrument panel to warn about spar pins. And the engine will not start if a spar pin is not locked in place regardless of whether or not the spar pins are connected to the D-180 EMS contact input. On my RV-12, I connected that contact input to an airspeed switch and a flap switch in parallel to ground. If the airspeed is too high and the flaps are deployed, then the D-180 alarms. The alarm has warned me a few times when I either lowered the flaps while going too fast, or forgot to raise them after having to unexpectedly abort a landing and go around.

[AllThumbs]

I suppose we could repurpose the spar warning. You just interrupt the input on the D180 and replace with the output from the ADS600EXP.

I suspect Van's comment on that would be that knowing your spars are not secured is way more important than knowing if your ADSB has failed.

[Mike S]

Originally Posted by AllThumbs

I suppose we could repurpose the spar warning. You just interrupt the input on the D180 and replace with the output from the ADS600EXP.

Depends on how the spar warning switch is wired. The Navworx uses a warning light that is wired to a hot source, ground is controlled by the box to light the indicator------at least the one I am working on at the moment is like that-------pin 14, "active low" for indicator.

[Mich48041]

The D-180 contact input monitors whether or not the input is connected to ground. The user can give the input a 4 character name such as, SPAR, FLAP, CNPY, ADSB, or etc. The user can also configure the alarm to sound when the input is either connected to or disconnected from ground. It will not hurt the D-180 if external voltage is applied to the contact input as long as that voltage does not exceed 15 volts. See the FlightDEK-D180 Installation Guide pages 3-18 and 6-18.

[RFSchaller]

FreeFlight just announced a $1995 ADS-B Out solution. The In option requires one of their WiFi modules (about $125 as I recall).

Kinda ticks me off after forking over $3400 for the FreeFlight XVR-978 and WiFi module at OSH, but I knew what I was getting into.

One caveat: after the update from iOS 7 to iOS 8 on my iPad I had frequent data stream dropouts using WingX 7, and some persisted for 30 minutes. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason to when they occurred. Eventually I put my iPhone 5S Wing X 7(running iOS 7) next to my iPad (Running 8.1) and saw the data status flags drop on the iPad while the iPhone stayed rock solid.

Since the recent update to iOS 8.2 I have flown about 10 hours and seen the dropouts reduce dramatically with the longest persisting about 2 seconds. I just wanted to pass this on in case someone is considering options to NAVWORX.

[BobTurner]

Originally Posted by RFSchaller

FreeFlight just announced a $1995 ADS-B Out solution. The In option requires one of their WiFi modules (about $125 as I recall).

Kinda ticks me off after forking over $3400 for the FreeFlight XVR-978 and WiFi module at OSH, but I knew what I was getting into.

Don't be ticked off. The $2K is out only, as you said. If you want in and out their web site is recommending a version of the 978 with a list price of more than you paid.

[AllThumbs]

After consulting with the "team" we will keep the SPAR contact on the D180. They pointed out the SPAR lamp on the panel button is very hard to see in daylight so an aural alarm from the D180 is a good thing. It would be... bad... if your wings fell off.

I'm going to use a red LED square momentary contact switch (eBay) for the UAT Fail. The momentary contact is so you can push-to-test the LED before flight. Not that anyone will do this.