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10-29-2006, 09:12 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Ramon, CA
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EAA Tech Counselor Etiquette
I am about to close my wings and am going to have my local EAA counselor have a look before I do so. It was never clear to me if I should offer to pay him or what is considered proper etiquette. You tech folks put a lot of time and effort into keeping newbies like myself out of trouble--and don't think we don't really appreciate it.
He has been out to my project once before, early in the empennage phase. He didn't do any sort of formal paperwork. Is there a form or something they do to document their visits and my progress?
Thanks,
Michael Wynn
RV 8 Wings (just about done with them!)
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10-29-2006, 09:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MKE
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There is a form that the TC fills out, and you should get a copy. Your DAR may want to see these forms at inspection time as proof of in-progress inspections.
As for paying a TC- the TC program is strictly voluntary. TCs are permitted to charge for travel expenses, and I've had a few buy me lunch afterwords, but there is no fee for a TC inspection.
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Jeff Point
RV-6, RLU-1 built & flying
Tech Counselor, Flight Advisor & President, EAA Chapter 18
Milwaukee
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10-29-2006, 07:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 201
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Originally Posted by sprucemoose
There is a form that the TC fills out, and you should get a copy.
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Where can they be found?
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Mark
RV-10
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10-29-2006, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 1,565
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Originally Posted by sprucemoose
There is a form that the TC fills out, and you should get a copy. Your DAR may want to see these forms at inspection time as proof of in-progress inspections.
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Really? I've had an A&P look at my plane but he's not a tech counselor and I certainly haven't gotten any kind of form. My wings are already closed, too. A tech counselor inspection isn't mandatory, right?
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Brad Benson, Maplewood MN.
RV-6A N164BL, Flying since Nov 2012!
If you're not making mistakes, you're probably not making anything
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10-29-2006, 08:06 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
Posts: 3,503
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Originally Posted by ChiefPilot
Really? I've had an A&P look at my plane but he's not a tech counselor and I certainly haven't gotten any kind of form. My wings are already closed, too. A tech counselor inspection isn't mandatory, right?
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A TC visit is not mandatory but all the DARs like myself highly recommend them. As a DAR, I feel much better when the builder has a stack of EAA TC forms when I come out to do the Airworthiness Inspection.
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Gary A. Sobek
NC25 RV-6 Flying
3,400+ hours
Where is N157GS
Building RV-8 S/N: 80012
To most people, the sky is the limit.
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10-29-2006, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
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Everything said before is true. Technical counselors are volunteers. We appreciate offers of gas money and maybe a "cheap" lunch once in a while but it is not necessary. A minimum of 3 TC inspections is recommended, but as a DAR, I like to see evidence of at least 5. Again these are not mandatory, but when we come out for the airworthiness inspection, we get a "warm fuzzy" feeling if the builder has had other "experienced" eyes on the project.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Last edited by Mel : 10-29-2006 at 08:28 PM.
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10-30-2006, 12:14 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MKE
Posts: 1,519
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Originally Posted by FlyerJumper
Where can they be found?
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The TC should have them. They're part of the TC materials.
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Jeff Point
RV-6, RLU-1 built & flying
Tech Counselor, Flight Advisor & President, EAA Chapter 18
Milwaukee
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10-30-2006, 05:44 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 445
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I would like to ask another Tech Counselor question. At what points in the construction should we ask someone to come out and take a peek?
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10-30-2006, 05:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
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Normally the first inspection shoulf be as soon as you start construction. This will give the TC an idea of your building technique and make sure that you are not developing bad habits right off. After the first inspection he will probably suggest when the next one should be. If he sees that you need more guidance, he may suggest more frequent inspections. As a rule of thumb, inspections should be before closing up major assemblies. Another point, if you have access to more than one TC, try to alternate them. Different eyes see different things.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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10-30-2006, 07:48 AM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,300
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To add to Mel's comments, here is where you can find additional info and listings of EAA Technical Counselors:
http://members.eaa.org/home/lookup/index.html
I also advise builders to whom I provide Tech Counselor visits to take advantage of the EAA Flight Advisor program as well.
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