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Old 12-28-2014, 04:03 PM
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I'm not the pilot, so I can't answer for him and this is way off topic.

What was supposed to be a mild tail wind turned into a significant headwind, along the line of 40 knots, IIRC.

So, what turned into a flight with significant margin turned into one w/ no margin.

As for planning, we have all gotten spoiled by using our GPS's. This flight happened before the availability of sat navigation and a watch and compass were the primary over water navigation tools.

So diverting to another island was not an option.
It appears to have taken place in 2005...SAT navigation had been easily available for several years.
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:17 PM
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It appears to have taken place in 2005...SAT navigation had been easily available for several years.
You are assuming the link provided was the person I was talking about and that he had a GPS on board, neither may be good assumptions.
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:23 PM
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You are assuming the link provided was the person I was talking about and that he had a GPS on board.
So there were TWO Cherokees who flew from the Bahamas to Florida into 40 knot winds and ran out of gas just short of the Florida coastline?

Uh, yeah...
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:27 PM
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You are assuming the link provided was the person I was talking about and that he had a GPS on board.
Although I am, in fact, assuming that the link posted describes the event, I am not assuming that a GPS was on board. I am merely pointing out that in 2005, time/heading was certainly not the primary method of over-water navigation.
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:29 PM
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So there were TWO Cherokees who flew from the Bahamas to Florida into 40 knot winds and ran out of gas just short of the Florida coastline?

Uh, yeah...
That's why I assumed...LMAOWEG!
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:29 PM
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Lets all remember that 40 kt. headwind instantly becomes a 40 kt. tailwind after a 180 degree turn.

And lets look at the the definition of forecast and why we it should only be one tool in the kit bag:

noun: forecast; plural noun: forecasts

1. a prediction or estimate of future events, especially coming weather or a financial trend.
synonyms: prediction, prophecy, forewarning, prognostication, augury, divination, prognosis
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Old 12-28-2014, 05:01 PM
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Although I am, in fact, assuming that the link posted describes the event, I am not assuming that a GPS was on board. I am merely pointing out that in 2005, time/heading was certainly not the primary method of over-water navigation.
That was the accident. I do not remember what nav gear was aboard, and it probably wasn't a causal factor in the event in any case.

Thankfully, nobody was hurt and we all have a good reminder that weather is whatever it is, regardless of what was forecast.
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Old 12-28-2014, 05:14 PM
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So there were TWO Cherokees who flew from the Bahamas to Florida into 40 knot winds and ran out of gas just short of the Florida coastline?

Uh, yeah...
That's good!

No, I just don't know the time frame of his ditching. Kyle probably knows better than I do. For some reason, I thought it happened before then but I could very well be wrong; probably am wrong.
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Old 12-28-2014, 05:51 PM
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In case I missed it... Do the folks here that fly over water regularlarly also wear a "Mae West" while flying? If so, what is a good one? I fly over Minnesota, "Land of 10,000 Lakes", I've been thinking of buying one.
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Old 12-28-2014, 06:29 PM
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My ditching procedure (or some variation)

1. turn 90 degrees to waves
2. tighten seat belts
3. starting cutting...yes I carry this tool in my airplane when over water, swamp or mountainous terraign

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