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Old 07-25-2014, 09:22 AM
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In the RV-7 the module is mounted on the sub panel with the fuses below the edge so you can get to them.

The module not only has a Skyview network hub, it will also talk on it to the EFIS displays. We will be adding more functionality to the EFIS interface in the future.

Yes, the module was designed to accept all the current radios that we already interface to.

I would argue that you should not be messing with fuses or circuit breakers in flight. When is the last time you had to change a fuse while driving in your car? Poorly designed and wired electrical systems cause breaker trips, solve that and there should not be a need to reset in flight.

There was an airliner that crashed on the way to Mexico a few years ago where the pilots kept resetting the trim circuit breaker until it was uncontrollable.

The module is also designed to work with the TruTrak autopilot.

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Old 07-25-2014, 09:25 AM
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For us that already have the skyview displays and modules will the wiring hub be available separately?
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Old 07-25-2014, 09:35 AM
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This is still very new and we are looking at all options.

The big advantage to us providing a complete panel system is that we can test and configure it. This will eliminated many hours of frustrating troubleshooting and tech support for you and us.


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Old 07-25-2014, 09:54 AM
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Remote circuit breakers also add weight and complexity. You end up having to run a wire to a crimp ring terminal, screw the terminal to the breaker, screw another ring terminal to the exit of the breaker, and then have another crimp connection. That is a lot of failure points and weight.

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Old 07-25-2014, 10:46 AM
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Default Weight/failure points vs ease of install

Since weight and additional failure points were mentioned in this discussion...

The plug & play Control Module has a bit of compromise too: While the many Fast Stack style D-Sub Sockets and internal connection circuits make assembly fast and accurate, they do add a bit of their own weight and failure points vs running just the wiring required directly from component to component.
  • Up to 40 extra plugs (and additional failure points)
  • Unused circuits/wires
  • Extra length of wires going from Device A to Control Module to Device B instead of directly from device to device that may be mounted next to each other
But while a compromise, this is ultimately very cool for those who don't want to run their own wiring.
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Old 07-27-2014, 07:04 AM
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Is there any thought of integrating Vertical Power products for there ECB's and other capabilities into the quick panel?
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:21 AM
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I'm sure you are asking about integration with the Quick Panel system, but Vertical Power does integrate with AFS and Dynon. You just have to build the system or have one of our dealers build the panel for you.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:42 PM
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Default Circuit data

One of the things we do inflight is to pull up the VPX on AFS Effis and scroll through each circuit and look at its status and amp draw. This info tells a story on each circuit and we feel is this to be very valuable info. Also the availability to override the panel mount switches and reset circuits has been used for testing purposes and provides redundancy. As usual, the more data and options we have the more we want
Is this new system capable of these features?
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:52 PM
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That horrific fuse access would make this a non-starter for me. Easy to blow a starter solenoid circuit fuse. Or want to pull a fuse for a variety of reasons during maintenance or troubleshooting on the ground. Fuses should be on a sub panel mountable through the main panel like the RV12.

Just one opinion! other than that - a winner!

Does it incorporate sound level and trim rate adjustment pots like the Vans AV-5000A box? If so I hope the adjustments are better and more accessible - the Vans design is quite poor in that regard.
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Old 07-27-2014, 01:21 PM
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I think you will be very surprised how easy it is to get to the fuses in the RV-7. We have two RV7 panels with sub panel and ribs in the booth at Oshkosh so come see for yourself.

Each device has its own volume adjustment so there is no need to have an adjustment in the module. There are no potentiometers to adjust in the module.

"Easy to blow a starter solenoid circuit fuse" I have over 1900 flight hours (900 hours in the RV-10, 600 in the RV-4 and 80 in a Glasair Sportsman) and I have never blown a starter solenoid fuse.

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