VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV Ongoing Maintenance Issues
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-14-2014, 09:27 AM
Stepclimb Stepclimb is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 8
Default Connecting Manifold pressure lines

I hope someone can help me with this. My existing Manifold pressure line is 1/4 in nylon tubing. I am installing an insight G3 analyzer which has an AN-2 male flare fitting. Normally AN-2 would connect to aluminum tubing of 1/8 in OD.

I can tee off of the nylon tubing and run 1/4" OD nylon tubing to the insight G3, but I'm stumped on how to connect the 1/4" OD nylon to an AN-2 male flare. After searching Spruce for options, I can not find any elegant solutions.

Any ideas ( perhaps with part numbers from spruce or others)

Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-14-2014, 09:31 AM
Mike S's Avatar
Mike S Mike S is offline
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
Default Welcome to VAF!

Drew, welcome aboard the good ship VAF

Are you using the primer port in a head to source your manifold pressure???
__________________
Mike Starkey
VAF 909

Rv-10, N210LM.

Flying as of 12/4/2010

Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011

Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.

"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."

Last edited by Mike S : 06-14-2014 at 09:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-14-2014, 09:52 AM
Stepclimb Stepclimb is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 8
Default

Thanks Mike!

I'm not sure what you mean about a primer port. From the Lyc IO-360, I've got 1/4 " Nylon tubing running to my analog MP instrument.

I see several manufacturers make brass tee's for 1/4" nylon, but I can't figure out how to get 1/4" nylon tubing to mate to the male AN-2 flare on the back of the G3 instrument.

I had thought of putting together an AN-2 nut and flared 1/8" aluminum tubing, but the 1/8" OD aluminum is considerably smaller than the ID of the 1/4" nylon.

I don't want to introduce a leak in the MP sensing system.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-14-2014, 10:05 AM
Mike S's Avatar
Mike S Mike S is offline
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepclimb View Post
Thanks Mike!

I'm not sure what you mean about a primer port.
The primer port is where the brass fitting with copper tubing is attached in this photo.

__________________
Mike Starkey
VAF 909

Rv-10, N210LM.

Flying as of 12/4/2010

Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011

Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.

"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-14-2014, 11:08 AM
Stepclimb Stepclimb is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 8
Default

Ok..now I see....in my setup. .the cylinder fitting is 1/8 NPT to AN4 45 degree elbow then 1/4 aluminum tubing...then when it enters the cockpit, there is a fitting that converts from AN4 flare to 1/4 in nylon tubing. The easiest tubing to access under the panel is the 1/4 OD nylon.

I just can't find an elegant solution to join 1/4" OD nylon tubing to a male AN-2 flare....

Drew
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-14-2014, 12:21 PM
Larco's Avatar
Larco Larco is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: DVT Phoenix
Posts: 1,187
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepclimb View Post
I hope someone can help me with this. My existing Manifold pressure line is 1/4 in nylon tubing. I am installing an insight G3 analyzer which has an AN-2 male flare fitting. Normally AN-2 would connect to aluminum tubing of 1/8 in OD.

I can tee off of the nylon tubing and run 1/4" OD nylon tubing to the insight G3, but I'm stumped on how to connect the 1/4" OD nylon to an AN-2 male flare. After searching Spruce for options, I can not find any elegant solutions.

Any ideas ( perhaps with part numbers from spruce or others)

Thanks!
Take a look at this. Larry
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...lickkey=194657
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-14-2014, 12:36 PM
Toobuilder's Avatar
Toobuilder Toobuilder is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
Posts: 4,642
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepclimb View Post
... I had thought of putting together an AN-2 nut and flared 1/8" aluminum tubing, but the 1/8" OD aluminum is considerably smaller than the ID of the 1/4" nylon...
I'm guessing that the AN fitting is not simply threaded into the G3 analyzer with NPT?

So how about using some heat shrink sleeve on the -2 aluminum hard line so that it makes a nice snug fit inside the 1/4 inch nylon. A couple turns of safety wire as a hose clamp should seal it up nicely.
__________________
WARNING! Incorrect design and/or fabrication of aircraft and/or components may result in injury or death. Information presented in this post is based on my own experience - Reader has sole responsibility for determining accuracy or suitability for use.

Michael Robinson
______________
Harmon Rocket II -SDS EFI
RV-8 - SDS CPI
1940 Taylorcraft BL-65
1984 L39C
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-14-2014, 02:23 PM
jay.pearlman jay.pearlman is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Angeles WA
Posts: 250
Default

Rather than a conversion to Nylon, can you run aluminum all the way, using a bulkhead feedthrough at the firewall. Think carefully if a failure or leak in the tubing will cause a failure in one of the cylinders.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-14-2014, 03:00 PM
Stepclimb Stepclimb is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LARCO View Post
Hi Larry,

I saw that tee, but was concerned that the description mentioned that the larger two barbed fittings were for 1/4" ID fuel line. My nylon MP line is 1/4 OD with .050 wall. I don't think the nylon is flexible enough to stretch that much.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-14-2014, 03:07 PM
Stepclimb Stepclimb is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Philly, PA
Posts: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toobuilder View Post
I'm guessing that the AN fitting is not simply threaded into the G3 analyzer with NPT?

So how about using some heat shrink sleeve on the -2 aluminum hard line so that it makes a nice snug fit inside the 1/4 inch nylon. A couple turns of safety wire as a hose clamp should seal it up nicely.
Michael,

Thanks! I had not considered heat shrink, but that might just do the trick.

For the life of me, I don't know why Insight used an AN-2 male flare. It would have been easier if it was female NPT. I have not tried to remove the AN-2 fitting. I am concerned it may have sealant on the threads or a nut on the back(inside the instrument)that I don't know about.

Instead of safety wire, I might use 2 small cable ties to cinch down the nylon over the heat-shrinked hard line.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:02 PM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.