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06-14-2014, 09:27 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Connecting Manifold pressure lines
I hope someone can help me with this. My existing Manifold pressure line is 1/4 in nylon tubing. I am installing an insight G3 analyzer which has an AN-2 male flare fitting. Normally AN-2 would connect to aluminum tubing of 1/8 in OD.
I can tee off of the nylon tubing and run 1/4" OD nylon tubing to the insight G3, but I'm stumped on how to connect the 1/4" OD nylon to an AN-2 male flare. After searching Spruce for options, I can not find any elegant solutions.
Any ideas ( perhaps with part numbers from spruce or others)
Thanks!
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06-14-2014, 09:31 AM
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Welcome to VAF!
Drew, welcome aboard the good ship VAF
Are you using the primer port in a head to source your manifold pressure???
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06-14-2014, 09:52 AM
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Thanks Mike!
I'm not sure what you mean about a primer port. From the Lyc IO-360, I've got 1/4 " Nylon tubing running to my analog MP instrument.
I see several manufacturers make brass tee's for 1/4" nylon, but I can't figure out how to get 1/4" nylon tubing to mate to the male AN-2 flare on the back of the G3 instrument.
I had thought of putting together an AN-2 nut and flared 1/8" aluminum tubing, but the 1/8" OD aluminum is considerably smaller than the ID of the 1/4" nylon.
I don't want to introduce a leak in the MP sensing system.
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06-14-2014, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepclimb
Thanks Mike!
I'm not sure what you mean about a primer port.
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The primer port is where the brass fitting with copper tubing is attached in this photo.

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VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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06-14-2014, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Ok..now I see....in my setup. .the cylinder fitting is 1/8 NPT to AN4 45 degree elbow then 1/4 aluminum tubing...then when it enters the cockpit, there is a fitting that converts from AN4 flare to 1/4 in nylon tubing. The easiest tubing to access under the panel is the 1/4 OD nylon.
I just can't find an elegant solution to join 1/4" OD nylon tubing to a male AN-2 flare....
Drew
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06-14-2014, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepclimb
I hope someone can help me with this. My existing Manifold pressure line is 1/4 in nylon tubing. I am installing an insight G3 analyzer which has an AN-2 male flare fitting. Normally AN-2 would connect to aluminum tubing of 1/8 in OD.
I can tee off of the nylon tubing and run 1/4" OD nylon tubing to the insight G3, but I'm stumped on how to connect the 1/4" OD nylon to an AN-2 male flare. After searching Spruce for options, I can not find any elegant solutions.
Any ideas ( perhaps with part numbers from spruce or others)
Thanks!
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Take a look at this. Larry
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...lickkey=194657
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06-14-2014, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepclimb
... I had thought of putting together an AN-2 nut and flared 1/8" aluminum tubing, but the 1/8" OD aluminum is considerably smaller than the ID of the 1/4" nylon...
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I'm guessing that the AN fitting is not simply threaded into the G3 analyzer with NPT?
So how about using some heat shrink sleeve on the -2 aluminum hard line so that it makes a nice snug fit inside the 1/4 inch nylon. A couple turns of safety wire as a hose clamp should seal it up nicely.
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06-14-2014, 02:23 PM
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Rather than a conversion to Nylon, can you run aluminum all the way, using a bulkhead feedthrough at the firewall. Think carefully if a failure or leak in the tubing will cause a failure in one of the cylinders.
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06-14-2014, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Originally Posted by LARCO
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Hi Larry,
I saw that tee, but was concerned that the description mentioned that the larger two barbed fittings were for 1/4" ID fuel line. My nylon MP line is 1/4 OD with .050 wall. I don't think the nylon is flexible enough to stretch that much.
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06-14-2014, 03:07 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toobuilder
I'm guessing that the AN fitting is not simply threaded into the G3 analyzer with NPT?
So how about using some heat shrink sleeve on the -2 aluminum hard line so that it makes a nice snug fit inside the 1/4 inch nylon. A couple turns of safety wire as a hose clamp should seal it up nicely.
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Michael,
Thanks! I had not considered heat shrink, but that might just do the trick.
For the life of me, I don't know why Insight used an AN-2 male flare. It would have been easier if it was female NPT. I have not tried to remove the AN-2 fitting. I am concerned it may have sealant on the threads or a nut on the back(inside the instrument)that I don't know about.
Instead of safety wire, I might use 2 small cable ties to cinch down the nylon over the heat-shrinked hard line.
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