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05-05-2014, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clinton, Indiana
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Brake fluid reservoir ?
I have read many comments about the Vans aluminum can. Rocket Bob says no problem. Others have opted for individual cans on the master cylinder like a C140. If I am willing to deal with the Vans can on the cockpit side of the firewall, what am I missing regarding safety and function ?
I understand hoses from TS Flightlines to the caliper is a good thing due to heat. I am only pondering the fluid reservoir to the master cylinder??
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05-05-2014, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ridgeland, SC
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Larry---not that familiar with the 3, but we can figure a way to mount and plumb the reservoir on the engine side of the firewall if you want.
Tom
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05-05-2014, 10:48 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
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We have the individual reservoirs on all three of our planes - they work well, and there are that many fewer connections and hoses.
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05-06-2014, 04:54 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clinton, Indiana
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Thanks Paul
What unit are you using ? I see at least two brands and several sizes at ACS .
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RV-4 fastback w/ Superior roller 360/AFP/G3X/CPI/Catto3b
Clinton, IN
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05-06-2014, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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FWIW, I find brake bleeding is more of a hassle and a lot messier with cylinder mounted reservoirs.
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05-06-2014, 09:09 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton, Nevada --- A34
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So easy, even a wife can do it!
Larry, you do have to remove each wheel pant but I find bleeding the remote cylinders easy and (generally) without a mess.
The cylinders we used are similar to Grove Reservoir 067-050. (Ours don't have the black anodizing.
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05-06-2014, 10:52 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Warwickshire UK
Posts: 703
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I've just been switching to new master cylinders on my RV-4 and went to the Grove individual reservoirs for the reasons that Paul has said. The reason for the change was to fix a soft brake problem and go away from the 'inverted' master cylinder with the old Clevelands.
The trick that I used to bleed them cleanly was to screw in a nylon NPT to hose fitting in the top of the reservoir and run a length of tube into a bottle to collect the overspill. Then drain out the surplus fluid from the bleed nipple before re-fitting the reservoir cap. I found the nylon fitting at Home Depot.
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05-06-2014, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: South Australia
Posts: 66
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Cylinder Mounted Reservoirs
Possibly not an issue with the -3's, (or others ?), but as this is in General, and the use in -8's has been mentioned, it's worth pointing out again, the potentially hazardous situation regarding the limited rudder pedal travel. At least in the -8's with in-flight adjustable pedals.
As I see it, you have to either, position the cylinders with a combination of angle fittings, physically limit the pedal adjust mechanism so the most forward positions can't be used, or just placard to warn of the risks  .
Or perhaps just feel comfortable in the knowledge that no one with long legs will ever fly your plane.
Paul.
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05-13-2014, 05:26 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wilmington, NC
Posts: 514
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironflight
We have the individual reservoirs on all three of our planes - they work well, and there are that many fewer connections and hoses.
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And you also have a set of these buried somewhere in your new shop
https://picasaweb.google.com/tonyboy...73158994499298
Tony
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05-13-2014, 06:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Battleground
Posts: 4,348
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One plane fitted per plans with firewall reservoir, one plane with individual pedal mounted. Flip a coin..... pluses and minuses to both.
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