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Old 04-14-2014, 07:23 PM
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Default The Big Reveal

Here is what a full 47.5-47.5-5% screen would look like!

Leading up to the BIG REVEAL!
First a Standard 40-40-20 Screen
Then a Standard 50-50 Screen
Then a comparison of 40% vs 50% PFD
Then a comparison of 40% vs 50% MAP
Then a NEW 47.5%-47.5%-5% Display! Achieved by a tiny amount of cropping on the left and right sides of the 50% displays!!! Here they are:

First a Standard 40-40-20 Screen


Now a Standard 50-50 Screen


Now a comparison of 40% vs 50% PFD


Now a comparison of 40% vs 50% MAP


REVEAL: a NEW 47.5%-47.5%-5% Display! Achieved by a tiny amount of cropping on the left and right sides of the 50% displays!!!


Full discussion here:
http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yab...num=1397348791
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:00 PM
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I like that 5% side bar. Very neat!
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:02 PM
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Larry, I don't mind writing code and would be very interested in your EMS hack instructions.
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Larry, I don't mind writing code and would be very interested in your EMS hack instructions.
Bob, I am not the author of the EMS widget wizardry instructions. That honor belongs to Murray Marian. So I wont have to send individual pdf files to interested parties, I again located his web site link. Enjoy

http://www.digitalmapping.sk.ca/EMS_Gauges.pdf
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:57 PM
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If you like the 5% side bar, go to the Dynon forum link at the bottom of post number 11 and say you support it. Looks like they are considering it somewhat positively.
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:28 PM
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A very good suggestion on the Dynon Forum has resulted in this modification.

Green numbers when "in the green," not highlighted! Things on the screen should have prominence based on their importance, and abnormal situations should stand out much more than normal ones. So highlighting of Yellow and Red, no highlighting (or much more subtle highlighting) for normal (green)! Here's how that would look:

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Old 04-15-2014, 05:30 AM
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Bill, ever thought about moving to Seattle?
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:42 AM
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Default 5 % Side Bar Gets My Vote!

I?ll start my comment by saying I have yet to order or install the Skyview in my RV-12 (not at that point yet) nor do I have any real time experience behind the SkyView with the exception of a demo flight at Oshkosh.

It has bothered me somewhat knowing that the EMS display takes up such a large amount or real estate on the SkyViews?s screen. I feel the 5% side bar, as post #15 depicts, is a very eloquent way to monitor EMS data and would be a much welcomed option on my future SkyView Touch. It gets my vote to be sure.

My added suggestion ? Should a value displayed on the 5% side bar be in the red (or perhaps yellow) I would like to see the ability of the new SkyView Touch to bring up the traditional ?arcs and bars? view by touching the questionable display value. Because we (or at least I) visually interpret the position of a needle on a gauge much quicker than a displayed numeric value.

Touch out of normal range value ? bring up the arcs and bars display - quickly visualize the full picture by seeing all the other EMS gauges - make assessment to determine just ?how bad? is it? Take appropriate action.

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Old 04-15-2014, 10:45 AM
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That's a great EMS hacking post, Larry - thanks very much for that info.

I'm a'really liking the direction of this thread. I can see all sorts of customizations, above and beyond those built in to Skyview to start with. Even guys posting the text packages for their particular layouts that others could use.

Now - I'm wondering if the other SV displays are amenable to similar hacks. For example, could you insert an RPM widget onto the Map display info sidebar? If you could add a few EMS items to the Map, you could dispense with the EMS display altogether (I'm talking the thin strip variety.) Of course, you could always call up a big EMS screen for detailed analysis of something.

I think this is called convergence - in this case computer code-writing with aviation and a flying machine, bringing a new dimension to the word Experimental in flying.

As a certified Techno-Junkie, I'm starting to lick my chops.

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Old 04-15-2014, 11:12 AM
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...Green numbers when "in the green," not highlighted! ...
Only one problem, green numbers/letters are dark and against the dark background, they tend to washout in the sunlight, making them virtually unreadable.

Dynon has done a great job with their colors and struggles to provide good contrast. The good news is that as screen brightness and resolutions improve, these issues tend to go away.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:17 AM
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Hacking - hmmmm - - - Dynon allows for a lot of layout user-customization on the Engine screens. Much less on the map screen - you can basically choose (from a list) the kinds of data blocks that appear around the edge.

Very little is allowed by Dynon to customize on the PFD screen. So the MAP and PFD would involve true hacking with all the risks of that. Particularly regarding what happens every 3 or 4 months when they do a new release level with new stuff on it. Kinda like jailbreaking an IPAD.

Bill R. - all of the depiction options require flight environment testing. Another idea was a much fainter less saturated green (think a light gray but greenish) background with black numbers. The green analog bar widgets actually have light green in the center getting darker towards the edge. So that light center green might be a better green background for black numbers.

On the Dynon forum discussions, a design desire expressed is that the 20% EMS screen would always be one touch or one button click away when using the 5% strip.

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