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04-06-2014, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Reno,NV
Posts: 25
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BigD's RV-14
still learning how to post. I took the EAA sheet metal class a few weeks ago and bought the van's practice project and tool box. I am in the process of buying tools and decided to get a Sioux 6000 rpm drill, but not sure what 3X rivet gun. I know Sioux make one, but not sure if its worth the money. also wanted to know how to post on the bottom of my messages that Dues Paid and my name, etc. thanks
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04-06-2014, 08:43 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigD'sRV14
also wanted to know how to post on the bottom of my messages that Dues Paid and my name, etc. thanks
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Upper left corner, about 1/4 of the way down from the top of the screen is a blue bar with various drop down menus in it. Look for the one labeled "User CP" click, and select "Edit Signature".
Also, check out the "FAQ" in the menu bar also.
And, if I havent already said so, Welcome to VAF 
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VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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04-06-2014, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Big D, did you use the 3x in class? If not you might want to try one out first. Personally I found the 3X too powerful for my hand to hold steady when I was both bucker and driver. I gave my 3X to my brother for his project and went to a 2X instead. Just something to consider. BTW I used a Taylor brand rivet gun and it worked fine.
Chris
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RV-8 Flying, 850+hours
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04-06-2014, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: MS
Posts: 310
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Not to be confused with
BigD the RV-10 builder. First time I've run across that nickname besides me...maybe I don't get out enough. Welcome! I have a 2x and 3x (only the 2x is Sioux) and find the smaller one works better for -3 rivets, 3x for the -4s. Part of that is getting the air pressure right, and the smaller gun tends to take a few more hits to set the bigger rivets, giving more opportunities to put a smile on it or harden it.
==dave==
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04-14-2014, 08:29 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Reno,NV
Posts: 25
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Thanks Guys
Thanks Mike. Chris, I used a 3x in the EAA class and found it was easy enough to use. I appreciate all the offers for help when I will need it. And finally, Big D, my friends since grade school have called me Big D.
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Dennis Schade
Reno,NV
urischade@aol.com
RV-14 #140298
Completing an RV is not a race, but it is the ultimate victory.
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04-14-2014, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 4,428
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This MIght Help
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ad.php?t=89865
After having some issues I tried several guns and sets. This was what I wrote about it. I bought a Sioux 3X gun and am completely happy with it. Different sets don't always work with one or another gun, so be aware of that.
Dave
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04-15-2014, 08:48 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Reno,NV
Posts: 25
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Sioux 3x
Thanks David, I ended up ordering the Sioux 3x on several recommendation
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Dennis Schade
Reno,NV
urischade@aol.com
RV-14 #140298
Completing an RV is not a race, but it is the ultimate victory.
2018 Donation Sent
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04-15-2014, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 1,805
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Welcome, BigD! I'm in the early stages of learning how to rivet as well. I've got the ATS 3X gun. For flush rivets, do a lot of you prefer the rubber guard around the set? I get a lot of chatter over the skin, but it's possible that I've got the pressure too high. Taping the set is awesome?very clean results this way.
Also, anyone have a good close-up of a properly set shop head of a 3/32" flush rivet? I'm really happy with the results of the 1/8" rivets so far, but I'd like to see the right way to do the smaller rivets.
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RV-9A "slider"
Flew to Osh in 2017, 2018 & 2019! 
Tail number N427DK
Donation made for 2020
You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky -- Amelia Earhart
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04-15-2014, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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Make a simple gauge
Doug, drill a 9/64th hole in a piece of scrap to check the diameter (+50%)
and a notch can be cut on the other end to check height.
Best,
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Pierre Smith
RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
EAA Flight Advisor/CFI/Tech Counselor
Louisville, Ga
It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
Patrick Kenny, EAA 275132
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04-15-2014, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 1,805
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Thank you, Pierre! In my next order of tools, I'll get a rivet gauge.
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Doug
RV-9A "slider"
Flew to Osh in 2017, 2018 & 2019! 
Tail number N427DK
Donation made for 2020
You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky -- Amelia Earhart
Last edited by rightrudder : 04-15-2014 at 12:46 PM.
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