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03-18-2014, 09:25 AM
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Shark skin
This is interesting. Can we gain a few knots with a shark skin vinyl wrap?
http://www.redbullairrace.com/m/en_GB/article/shark-sky
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03-18-2014, 09:33 AM
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I can say with 100% certainty that some textures on a wrap reduce drag dramatically. Wind tunnel tests were done. Think golf ball and reverse golf ball patterns.
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03-18-2014, 09:21 PM
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We are game if you wanta give it a go! 
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03-19-2014, 08:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Lambert
I can say with 100% certainty that some textures on a wrap reduce drag dramatically. Wind tunnel tests were done. Think golf ball and reverse golf ball patterns.
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Can you share the test results, please.
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03-19-2014, 12:26 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Lambert
I can say with 100% certainty that some textures on a wrap reduce drag dramatically. Wind tunnel tests were done. Think golf ball and reverse golf ball patterns.
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The only wrap with texture that I have seen has the carbon fiber look. Is this is what preformed better in the wind tunnels?
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03-19-2014, 01:34 PM
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I can't give much more info than that.
We make a printer that prints texture. We can print any texture on top of a wrap film. The texture can be up to 3/16" high in clear ink with a very smooth edge.
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03-19-2014, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Testing
This would be an interesting test.
I'm still trying to get my head around the possibilities with the wrap.
My original paint scheme is out the window now that I can basically do anything.
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Estes Park, CO
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Donated 12/03/2019, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved (2,000+ hours)
HS SB, empennage, tanks, wings, fuse, working finishing kit
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03-19-2014, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bevan
The only wrap with texture that I have seen has the carbon fiber look. Is this is what preformed better in the wind tunnels?
Bevan
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Sorry to correct, but we have over 30 different textures. Gator skin to brushed titanium.
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03-19-2014, 10:11 PM
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I have shark skin textured "jammer" swim trunks that I use on my masters swim team. I couldn't tell any difference from my normal swimsuit, but that's probably because I lack talent and am the weak link on my team.  I did some research on the whole shark skin thing before buying my swim trunks, and it's the real deal. The shark texture actually does reduce drag. It would be interesting to see if it could improve parasite drag on an aircraft.
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03-19-2014, 11:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gash
I have shark skin textured "jammer" swim trunks that I use on my masters swim team. I couldn't tell any difference from my normal swimsuit, but that's probably because I lack talent and am the weak link on my team.
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Also consider that as "jammers" they only cover 1/4 to 1/3 of your skin at best. Unless you're waxing for speed, the rest will have a layer of hair which adds lots of drag, so the benefits of the shark skin texture will probably be very hard to find.
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