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02-27-2014, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Traverse City, MI
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RV-6 Alternator
Forgive me...just need advice. Is anyone familiar with the early alternators and charging systems for RV-6's? Mine has a small 35amp alternator and the panel lighting fluctuates when the engine is running. The VM system also shows charging in the yellow, red (high 15+v). Is the voltage regulated within the alternator, or does that small silver box on the battery box do something regarding voltage? Would it be recommended to upgrade alternators to today's offering, and does it require a new harness? Thanks for any advice.
Mike Stimac
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02-27-2014, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Welcome to VAF!
Mike, first post so welcome to you  Good to have you on VAF.
This has been discussed a lot in the past, have you tried searching for prior threads ???
Hint, when searching, be sure to reset the time parameter to "any date", as it is default set to only look at the prior year.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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02-27-2014, 11:17 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newnan, GA
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From my notes gathered on this site:
Old alternators are from a 1976-1979 Honda Civic CVCC without air conditioning. Part # is 14184. You can pick these up at Autozone or Advanced Auto Parts.. a 1975 Ford voltage regulator works with this unit.
I can vouch for the alternator.. I have one on my RV from Autozone. Haven't had any trouble with the voltage regulator so I haven't replaced it - just going by the notes I have saved from info on VAF.
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Brian Kilby
flying RV-6A, previously flying RV-9A
based at KCTJ, Carrollton, GA
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02-27-2014, 11:22 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Traverse City, MI
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RV-6 Alternator
Thanks, Mike. I will do just that. I purchased the -6 from a friend / builder who meticulously constructed the bird in a very minimalist fashion. Dave at 80, had not flown for a few years, and some 14 service bulletins were issued which I complied with while becoming quite familiar with the airframe. Including fuel pick-up tubes. Just don't know the electrical yet. Again,
Mike
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02-27-2014, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Traverse City, MI
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RV-6 Alternator
Brian,
Thanks for digging up the history and for the recommendations. I am going to learn to search right now, just for the practice, and I may learn something additional while doing so. The advice is invaluable.
Mike
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02-27-2014, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newnan, GA
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Just type in 14184 using the search function and you'll find plenty of articles. 
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flying RV-6A, previously flying RV-9A
based at KCTJ, Carrollton, GA
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02-27-2014, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...44&postcount=2
Above contains links that may help you.
I am moving this thread to "electrical systems"-------better fit than model specific "6/6a"
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
Last edited by Mike S : 02-27-2014 at 12:39 PM.
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02-27-2014, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Posts: 2,182
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My RV-6 was also built with the 35A Honda Civic alternator and originally had the little silver box external regulator (Mopar-style 2-wire regulator). The regulator was failed when I bought the plane, the charging voltage was only about 12 volts even. I pulled the alternator and had a local generator/alternator/starter shop bench test it and it was fine, would put out the full 35 amps. I bought a Ford voltage regulator from a local auto parts shop (BWD Select brand, part# R400, cost about $27) and installed it, and now run a solid 14.2 volts on the main bus with the engine running 
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Neal Howard
Airplaneless once again...
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02-27-2014, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Grindstone, PA
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Mine is a Nippon brand in my 6. I took it to a local alt shop and the did a complete rebuild for 80 bucks. I think NAPA had them for around a hundred. That didn't seem too bad for 1400 hours of run time.
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02-27-2014, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neal@F14
My RV-6 was also built with the 35A Honda Civic alternator and originally had the little silver box external regulator (Mopar-style 2-wire regulator). The regulator was failed when I bought the plane, the charging voltage was only about 12 volts even. I pulled the alternator and had a local generator/alternator/starter shop bench test it and it was fine, would put out the full 35 amps. I bought a Ford voltage regulator from a local auto parts shop (BWD Select brand, part# R400, cost about $27) and installed it, and now run a solid 14.2 volts on the main bus with the engine running 
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Vans also sold this little silver one, a ES M5-150A in the catalog.
But with the connectors cut off. This one is adjustable
Van also sold a VR-1751 non-adjustable one - may be like this -
http://www.amscovf.com/thumbnail.asp...axx=300&maxy=0
The 97 catalog page is here -
https://web.archive.org/web/19970628...log/engine.htm
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
Last edited by az_gila : 02-27-2014 at 07:42 PM.
Reason: Typo on the second part number - corrected
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