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02-13-2014, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Master and Starter Solenoids
I have noticed a couple different orientations on these devices. Is there a preferred veritcal orientation (which way is "up") on each of these. Thanks
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02-13-2014, 05:03 PM
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I really don't think it matters with the Starter solenoid.
On the master:
The master you ground to cause it to close. That said, the battery cable must be on one particular side of the solenoid. I don't think this will matter on the starter solenoid. On it, you must provide the voltage to close the contactor.
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02-13-2014, 05:31 PM
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Starter Soleniod and ACRO
There were some people who had the starter engage while doing positive G. So they mount them sideways.
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02-13-2014, 05:33 PM
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I understand the "hook up" electrical concept. The question was directed to the physical arrangement regarding mounting. I had heard comments of because of the way the solenoid moves (master), that it had to be orientated in a particular matter for the contacts to function optimally?
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02-13-2014, 05:33 PM
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Thanks Dan
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02-13-2014, 05:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flynwest
There were some people who had the starter engage while doing positive G. So they mount them sideways.
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I could see that. I dissected one that I thought had failed. The spring was not that stout. I would think contactor portion on bottom would address that issue. The contactor portion is the part where the leads connect.
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02-13-2014, 05:39 PM
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Thanks Alton
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02-13-2014, 07:06 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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EAA taught me that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by flynwest
There were some people who had the starter engage while doing positive G. So they mount them sideways.
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Took one of those two day electrical coarses a couple of years ago near Boston in a SportAir EAA workshop and that's exactly how they taught us to mount the starter solenoid. If your going to do a lot of high G stuff it sounded like a good idea. Even if the solenoid engaged for a second it would be bad.
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02-13-2014, 10:35 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Don't Van's instructions/schematics have it mounted "upside down" for that reason? That's how I did mine...
See DWG 31A.
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02-14-2014, 08:08 AM
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The old theory was that you wanted gravity to help pull the master closed and the starter open in the event of a dead spring. So.... Starter contacts down and master contacts up. That's their story and I'm sticking to it.
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