EAA inspection question

[Charles in SC]

Is there any follow up paper work given to me or anyone else after an EAA tech inspection? I had our EAA tech guy out to look at my project in may 2013 but have not heard anything from it. I asked at the time and thought he said he would send some paper work somewhere, I do not remember if he said he would send to me, EAA or who. He gave my work glowing reviews, signed my build log and I took his picture there with the plane. Is there anything else I should do?
Thanks in advance!

[RV6_flyer]

Originally Posted by Charles in SC

Is there any follow up paper work given to me or anyone else after an EAA tech inspection? I had our EAA tech guy out to look at my project in may 2013 but have not heard anything from it. I asked at the time and thought he said he would send some paper work somewhere, I do not remember if he said he would send to me, EAA or who. He gave my work glowing reviews, signed my build log and I took his picture there with the plane. Is there anything else I should do?
Thanks in advance!

EAA has asked Tech Counselors NOT to sign log books for at least the past 18-years.

There is a 3-page "EAA Technical Counselor Visit Report" that should have been filled out, the builder signed, and the builder given the 2nd sheet (Yellow copy) of the form during the TC Visit. The TC would keep the 3rd page (Pink) and send the 1st page (White) to EAA in a Postage Paid Envelope that EAA provides. (Size, color, and page number has changed over the years but what I list is the latest.)

I have been EAA TC 3816 since at 1996.

[N15JB]

Before they left, each of the three tech counselors who inspected my project gave me the yellow copy of the EAA form they completed. No one(DAR, FSDO, insurance, etc.) has ever asked to see them.

Jim Berry
RV-10

[az_gila]

I copied this from an older EAA guide to Tech Counselors.

Part of a letter I hand out. I think it is still in compliance with the EAA procedures...

The FAA recommends that all builders use experienced builders/A&Ps and/or EAA Technical Counselors for in-process inspections of you homebuilts. Details can be found in Section 8 of the Advisory Circular AC 20-27E ?Certification and Operation of Amateur-Built Aircraft?.
These visits are to be reported both in the aircraft logbook and on the Visit Report Form, which is completed by the Technical Counselor, signed by the builder, and sent to the EAA by the Technical Counselor.

You, the builder, should make an entry in your aircraft log book similar to the following:

?I, Joe E. Builder, had EAA Technical Counselor #xxx, John Q. Smith, visit my project on <date> and found it airworthy, signed Joe E. Builder.?

Visits are recommended prior to closing up major structures, and prior to covering any structure. For composite aircraft, visits are recommended when the aircraft structure is finished, but before any filling or painting is done. Each fabric covered structures should be inspected before covering.

For you RV builders, most areas are still inspectable after skinning but before adding fiberglass tips, etc., so several visits can be combined into one.

[Mel]

Originally Posted by az_gila

You, the builder, should make an entry in your aircraft log book similar to the following:
?I, Joe E. Builder, had EAA Technical Counselor #xxx, John Q. Smith, visit my project on <date> and found it airworthy, signed Joe E. Builder.?
[/i]

The word "airworthy" should never be used in reference to experimental amateur-built aircraft. Airworthy means that the aircraft meets it's "type design". An amateur-built aircraft does not have a type design, therefore it can never technically be airworthy.
It should be found "in a condition for safe operation".

[jrs14855]

From the FAA website:
N----XX
Airworthiness
Class:Experimental
Category:Amateur Built
Airworthiness date: --/--/----

Experimental Amateur Built Aircraft are issued Airworthiness Certificates as Experimental Aircraft.

[DanBaier]

I had a very difficult time having the EAA tech counselor I initially spoke with and, I thought, who agreed to stop by periodically and be a knowledge resource to actually show up. As I recall, over the period of a multi-year build, he did one time.

When I was nearing the point of closing the wings and fuse, I asked a friend who was an IA to come over and look at the project - I felt okay about it but you don't know what you don't know. He came up with a short, and easy, list of things to check. I kept that.

Then, with a couple of weeks to go, I asked him to look it over again. He charged me for about an hour of labor and did a nice inspection. Again, a short easy list that I kept, along with his invoice that made no inference of an inspection, but did indicate the N number and his involvement.

The DAR did a careful and lengthy inspection, but while he didn't seem to care that there were no regular technical counselor visits, the involvement of the IA, I think, clearly helped.

YMMV - I would do it again the same way.

Dan

[az_gila]

Originally Posted by Mel

The word "airworthy" should never be used in reference to experimental amateur-built aircraft. Airworthy means that the aircraft meets it's "type design". An amateur-built aircraft does not have a type design, therefore it can never technically be airworthy.
It should be found "in a condition for safe operation".

Mel, I believe the words came from the EAA web site, not me...

[Mel]

Regardless of the source, the statement is wrong.

An EAA Technical Counselor is NOT authorized to find any aircraft "airworthy".

[Charles in SC]

Thanks, is there a way I can check at EAA to see if he ever sent in the paper to them? As I read the replies here it made me remember signing that three part form but I did not get a copy.