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Old 01-26-2014, 06:21 PM
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Default Dimpler setup

I'm still working on my practice kits getting comfortable with my tools before I begin my build. I read quite a bit of opinion on c-frame vs. DRDT. I got a DRDT with my tool kit and also purchased a used c-frame. I've tried many different adjustments on the DRDT, but do not get the quality dimples that I quite easily get with the c-frame. I've read where many folks say the dimples from a DRDT are as good as the c-frame, so I'm thinking that I don't have my DRDT adjusted properly. Any advice on adjusting the DRDT? This pic shows c-frame on the left and DRDT on the right. Kind of hard to see the difference in the pic - halos around the dimples on the right. It is much more noticeable in person.

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Old 01-26-2014, 06:31 PM
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When you finish pulling on the handle do you feel it go over center and lock like a pair of Vice Grips?
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:48 PM
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Here is the link to setting up your DRDT.
http://www.experimentalaero.com/DRDT...20Drawings.pdf

Read the part in bold about not being able to over dimple.

Are you using the same die set as your c-frame?
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:51 PM
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When you finish pulling on the handle do you feel it go over center and lock like a pair of Vice Grips?
It does go over center, but it does not lock - handle will release when I let go of it.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:57 PM
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Here is the link to setting up your DRDT.
http://www.experimentalaero.com/DRDT...20Drawings.pdf

Read the part in bold about not being able to over dimple.

Are you using the same die set as your c-frame?
Thanks, Jason. I set up per those instructions and have gone beyond the 1/4 past flush thinking it was under dimpled. Yes, same dies used in both.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:58 AM
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I have quite a bit of preload on mine I think, it's many years since I set it up. With no material between them, once the dies contact each other the end of the handle has a further 2.5" to travel to the stop. I have no complaints about my dimples, they're very crisp.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:41 AM
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It does go over center, but it does not lock - handle will release when I let go of it.
It won't lock, but you should also see the arm move upwards ever so slightly.

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Old 01-27-2014, 10:33 AM
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It won't lock, but you should also see the arm move upwards ever so slightly.

bob
I have mine set up to lock every time. I can let go and it stays compressed. Not a bad dimple yet.
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:42 AM
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Thanks, gents. I?ve messed around with various ram distances ? up to the point of not being able get the handle to fully close. I?ve continually increased the pressure thinking that my results looked under-dimpled, and per the instructions that state you cannot under dimple with the DRDT. The owner sent me a PM and I will discuss further with him. I am sure the issue is one of operator error. Thanks for the advice.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:36 PM
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Thanks, gents. I?ve messed around with various ram distances ? up to the point of not being able get the handle to fully close. I?ve continually increased the pressure thinking that my results looked under-dimpled, and per the instructions that state you cannot under dimple with the DRDT. The owner sent me a PM and I will discuss further with him. I am sure the issue is one of operator error. Thanks for the advice.
The instructions state that you can't OVERdimple. You most certainly CAN underdimple.
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