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Old 12-14-2013, 12:04 PM
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Default Catto Prop Installation Questions...

I'm installing my catto prop. I have a few questions. I'm building an RV-9A, with a Lycoming O320-D3G, standard Vans Pink Cowl. I have the standard Sabre prop extension.

My question is, where do the two spinner mounting plates go in relation so the other components?

And what is the technique and torque values for installing the prop to the extension. Sabre comes with instructions for installing the extension to the engine.

Here's a crude diagram of the components, as I understand them.



In relation to these components, where does the backing plate go? And where does the forward spinner mounting plate go?

Thanks for your help!
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:18 PM
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In front of the crush plate and between the prop and extension.

42 pound-feet in typical (should give this number on the label on your prop). Install bolts and torque to ~32, then 37, then 42 (or whatever the final torque is for your prop if different from 42). Safety wire. Go fly for an hour, come back and check the torque. Mine has never needed adjustment once properly torqued, but worth checking.

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Old 12-14-2013, 12:18 PM
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The spinner bulkheads go on either side of the prop, flanges facing aft.
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:56 PM
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Greg and Bill contradicted each other on the front plate, I think. Is the complete picture like this?



Yup, the torque is on my prop. 38 lbs. is what it says. Obviously ft-lbs.

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Old 12-14-2013, 01:00 PM
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Bill and Greg are correct, I found a couple pics. Torque for the 0-360 bolts on the Catto for my prop were 42 ft/lbs, not sure if it's the same for the smaller bolts on the 0-320.


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Old 12-14-2013, 01:26 PM
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Greg and Bill contradicted each other on the front plate, I think. Is the complete picture like this?



Yup, the torque is on my prop. 38 lbs. is what it says. Obviously ft-lbs.

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That is correct.

Once every thing is set, mark all the parts and one prop blade so you can reassemble it in exactly the same way. (This also helps, when and if, you get it balanced.
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:07 PM
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Perfect. Thanks for the pictures and responses!

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Old 12-14-2013, 02:10 PM
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I had Craig cut my spinner and drill it to the bulkheads, It fits very well but only when clocked properly. As said above mark 1 blade cutout on each spinner bulkhead to align the bulkheads to the prop and there is just enough play in the bulkheads (while the prop bolts are still loose) that I must twist the rear spinner bulkhead counterclockwise and twist the front bulkhead clockwise to get the screws to line up. It is a very slight movement but I've safety wired the prop bolts on before and my spinner to spinner bulkhead holes didn't line up.
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:43 PM
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When you are at the finishing stages of the build, you just get used to having no instructions or drawings. It's been awhile since I've looked at either. I pulled out the manual to see if there were instructions describing fitting the spinner and low and behold there was a drawing detailing the very questions I've been asking here.



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Old 12-14-2013, 07:18 PM
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Sorry, my mistake, Bill is correct, the crush plate is in front of the bulkhead. And like others have said, worth clocking all these parts so that the spinner ends up with the holes lined up properly.

You may want to add some tape to the front bulkhead between the bulkhead and spinner if they don't fit really tight. I recently had a spinner screw break off (yes, broke, not just backed out) and hit one of the blades. Just a ding at first, then turned into a stress fracture after ~10 hours of flying. I had Craig replace the metal leading edge (when he took it off, it really fractured!). His take was that if there is any space between the spinner and bulkhead, it puts a lot of stress on the screw, so it is best to add a layer or two of tape (we used leading edge tape, but probably anything would work) to fill that gap.

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