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Old 11-25-2013, 09:17 PM
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Default Crosswind landing RV-4

I took the go pro along a few weeks ago for a special missing man flight and had it on for a cross wind landing at home base.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Dy1dG4Hh8

the -4 can handle alot worse! and this one has!

bonus video clip with f-16 and lots of atc chatter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhssLa4yL6s

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Old 11-25-2013, 10:53 PM
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Thumbs up RV-4 crosswind landing

Hi Chris

You're right , the RV-4 can handle a lot of wind...

I found one of me landing at a FLY-IN ( CSU3 )when looking at yours...I didn't know it existed....The things we find on the net..

I remember being a gusty day though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04oS31KsS9s

Cheers

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Old 11-26-2013, 08:03 AM
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I remember being a gusty day though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04oS31KsS9s

Cheers

Bruno
Well done. Good approach with no excess speed. Nice to see people still doing 3-pointers, x-wind or not. Anyone can do a wheel landing.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:20 AM
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Well done. Good approach with no excess speed. Nice to see people still doing 3-pointers, x-wind or not. Anyone can do a wheel landing.
Wheel land a C-170 (non counter balanced elevator), then get back with us!
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:31 AM
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Wheel land a C-170 (non counter balanced elevator), then get back with us!
The first wheel landing I did in my C-170B was a "squeakier". Another pilot saw it and asked how in the world I did that.
I was never able to repeat it!
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:43 AM
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Nicely done Chris
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:04 AM
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Wheel land a C-170 (non counter balanced elevator), then get back with us!
I admit that is impossible, since there are no 170s without elevator counterbalances.

But I've seen more 170s do wheel landings than 3-pointers. What's the deal? I admit I've never flown one.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:36 AM
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I admit that is impossible, since there are no 170s without elevator counterbalances.
Actually, there are.

My "rag-wing" 1948 C-170 is uncounterbalanced.

Your arm gets a workout going down a rough grass strip, and wheelies are tricky.

But I prefer three pointers anyway!
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:40 AM
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Well done. Good approach with no excess speed. Nice to see people still doing 3-pointers, x-wind or not. Anyone can do a wheel landing.
The RV-4 is one of the easiest landing airplanes I have flown. It has good rudder athority, and the ailerons are effective until the plane stops flying.

Every airplane type is different. ie. generally making a full stall 3 point landing is beginners work. wheel landing a cessna steel gear tail dragger requires finess and a good touch.

The globe swift is better wheeled in because with full flaps the elevator gets blanked out by the flaps. Not saying it can't be done ( I have ) but I doubt one could do it well 5 times in a row.

my point is that every airplane type is different so we can't generalize techniques.

video was entertainment value only )
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:16 AM
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my point is that every airplane type is different so we can't generalize techniques.
True, but once you get a handle on wheel landings, IMO they are easier (in most TW airplanes) than a good 3-pointer. I see more people do wheel landings these days in all types of TW airplanes IMO because they ARE easier, with less chance for those embarrassing bounces or drop-ins when you're trying to show everyone at the fly-in how good you can land.

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Actually, there are.

My "rag-wing" 1948 C-170 is uncounterbalanced.
Sorry, way OT, but this is a '48 ragwing. Small elevator counterbalance. The 170B had a larger counterbalance, but it's still an aerodynamic counterbalance no? Never seen a 170 elevator with no counterbalance like a J-3 Cub elevator.

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