Defeated by the Tip up

PIN 37 · #1 11-03-2013, 02:22 AM

Well after many hundreds of hours working on the Tipup, it has defeated me, I give up. I have spent quite a few hundred dollars getting the WD-716 weldment modified and lots of hours fitting, but I cant get it right. It is now so far out of alignment it would have to be replaced. I had the c-702 skin and the f-771 skin almost aligned and made one more cut and weld to get it right on the pilot side and now it is just rubbish. I give up, dont know where I am going to go from here, I have been working steadily for 8 years but have now lost motivation, bummer

rgmwa · #2 11-03-2013, 04:22 AM

Sounds like it's time for a Coopers, Phil, or maybe something from the Barossa. After 8 years, I don't think you'll be giving it away anytime soon. We all have those days.
Cheers
Rob

rbibb · #3 11-03-2013, 04:23 AM

Take a step back, work on something else, bum a ride, have a drink and then - finish the thing. Don't let the quest for perfection be the enemy of the "good enough'.

mick · #4 11-03-2013, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PIN 37

Well after many hundreds of hours working on the Tipup, it has defeated me, I give up. I have spent quite a few hundred dollars getting the WD-716 weldment modified and lots of hours fitting, but I cant get it right. It is now so far out of alignment it would have to be replaced. I had the c-702 skin and the f-771 skin almost aligned and made one more cut and weld to get it right on the pilot side and now it is just rubbish. I give up, dont know where I am going to go from here, I have been working steadily for 8 years but have now lost motivation, bummer

Phil
Give me a call, I have done a few tip ups and sliders and maybe able to help you with a couple of ideas. Pity your in SA and I'm in Vic.
Phone 0417 455 244
Mick

Captain_John · #5 11-03-2013, 07:05 AM

Relax and have a Bundaberg! I have a bottle on my bench right now.

I think that you are trying too hard.

The tipper is certainly a moving target. You need to roll with it in a Zen-like fashion!

Hang in there and don't let it throw ya!

. CJ

Jaypratt · #6 11-03-2013, 08:16 AM

Phil,

I feel your pain. I have built several tip ups here at RV Central, and never been really happy with how they turn out. My learning curve has been flat. I do know how to fix one though.

s10sakota · #7 11-03-2013, 03:26 PM

After reading so many horror stories about the tip up (which is what I want) my question is: Why has Vans not been able to make a tip up that fits?

Is the quality just that bad? All airframes should be the same right? So why doesn't the canopy fit?

I don't have my fuse kit yet, but I'm planning on the tip-up but I've heard nothing but horror stories about building it!!

bruceh · #8 11-03-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by s10sakota

Why has Vans not been able to make a tip up that fits?

I think that is why the design is so different now on the RV-12 and RV-14.

The tip up canopy is by far the most frustrating experience of the build. Mine took about a year (off and on) and every time it sat a little bit different. Still have some "scoops" on the front. However, it is "good enough" and it will have to be what it is. I don't believe there is a "perfect" tip up.

As others have said - give it a break, then come back to it. Persistence here is what it takes.

Brantel · #9 11-03-2013, 04:10 PM

A few...a very small few are lucky and somehow they manage to build a tipper without the scoops in the front.

The rest of us fight it as long as we can and then give up and cover up the problem with various techniques hidden by paint.

The bottom line is that the parts don't fit the 7's fuse and Van's either does not care or they are in denial about it....Its one of the few things that make me wish I had built a slider. (they have their own set of issues however)

Forget about trying to get the tipper perfect early in the process. This is false security as it will move all over the place again after you fasten the bubble to it and finish the glass work.

Be careful to not catch the front of the canopy skin on the top front skin as this may cause injury or death to innocent bystanders.....

scard · #10 11-03-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brantel

A few...a very small few are lucky and somehow they manage to build a tipper without the scoops in the front.

The rest of us fight it as long as we can and then give up and cover up the problem with various techniques hidden by paint.

Hey, speak for yourself

. Mine is perfect, as far as I can tell

. It is just another art project. So much fun that I'm building another (different) one.