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10-29-2013, 06:49 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Owner pilot maintenance of an E-AB airplane without repairman's certificate?
Can someone please point to the source that will explain what maintenance an owner pilot of an E-AB airplane can perform who does not have the repairman's certificate for that airplane. I need to replace the electric fuel pump (Facet 40108) on my RV and would like to know if I am required to have an A&P do the work, or am I permitted to do it myself.
Thanx.
Victor
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10-29-2013, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Atlanta
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You can do anything that is comfortable and safe yourself. If you are not mechanically inclined it may be best to save it for someone who is or at least consult them.
The only thing you can't do legally is the condition inspection.
If you want to replace the engine with a rubber band powered unit you are free to do so with some paperwork of course.
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10-29-2013, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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As far as pointing to a regulation. It's actually a "lack" of regulation.
Part 43 is the reg that states who CAN perform maintenance on aircraft and part 43 does not apply to experimental aircraft except where referenced in the operating limitations in regards to the condition inspection.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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10-29-2013, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
As far as pointing to a regulation. It's actually a "lack" of regulation.
Part 43 is the reg that states who CAN perform maintenance on aircraft and part 43 does not apply to experimental aircraft except where referenced in the operating limitations in regards to the condition inspection.
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Mel,
Even though Part 43 doe not fully apply, I presume that the recording requirements of 91.417 are still applicable.
Is that correct?
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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10-29-2013, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az_gila
Mel,
Even though Part 43 doe not fully apply, I presume that the recording requirements of 91.417 are still applicable.
Is that correct?
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That is correct!
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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10-29-2013, 12:16 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 188
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So, if I correctly understand the replies... I am permitted to change the electric fuel pump myself if I so choose. However I am still required to record the activity in the aircraft log book just as I do when changing the oil for instance...?
Thanx everyone...
Victor
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10-29-2013, 12:54 PM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vasrv7a
So, if I correctly understand the replies... I am permitted to change the electric fuel pump myself if I so choose. However I am still required to record the activity in the aircraft log book just as I do when changing the oil for instance...?
Thanx everyone...
Victor
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There are no regulations per FARs to make any entries in the logs except for completion of the annual condition inspection.
I know this is startling for someone coming out of the certificated universe--welcome to Experimental Aviation! 
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10-29-2013, 01:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
There are no regulations per FARs to make any entries in the logs except for completion of the annual condition inspection.
I know this is startling for someone coming out of the certificated universe--welcome to Experimental Aviation! 
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Not if you believe that 91.417 applies to Experimentals -
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...5.7.10&idno=14
And the FAA does not use the word "logs" or "log book" - they refer to them as "maintenance records" and can be in any form - even on toilet paper as long as you keep them as required...
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(1) Records of the maintenance, preventive maintenance, and alteration and records of the 100-hour, annual, progressive, and other required or approved inspections, as appropriate, for each aircraft (including the airframe) and each engine, propeller, rotor, and appliance of an aircraft. The records must include—
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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10-29-2013, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Frederick, MD
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Curious if part 91 rules like 91.407 and 91.417 which are applicable to our experimental aircraft (91.1) and reference back part 43, invokes those limited sections of part 43 by reference?
Seems to me like the language would do that. Therefore, aircraft record entries would be required for the listed types of maintenance??
Anybody oficially know if this is true?
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Frederick, MD
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RV6 built and sold
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10-29-2013, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 188
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Wow... Thanx for all the great info!!!
Much appreciated.
Victor
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