VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-21-2013, 05:17 PM
MK77 MK77 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 124
Default G3X Lighting Bus Dimmer

Hi All, Anybody know if the Garmin G3X lighting bus input has issues with PWM dimmers? I've heard some EFIS displays don't like the PWM as it causes flickering.

Matt
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-21-2013, 07:29 PM
Bill.Peyton's Avatar
Bill.Peyton Bill.Peyton is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,785
Default

I had a problem with the flicker and ended up just using a potentiometer.
__________________
Bill Peyton
RV-10 - 1125 hrs
N37CP
First Flight Oct 2012
Aviation Partners, LLC
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-21-2013, 07:51 PM
MK77 MK77 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 124
Default

Good to know, thanks for the info Bill!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-21-2013, 08:04 PM
BillL BillL is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,515
Default

Ask The Stein guys, they put one in my panel, but I don't know its' principle of operation.

If I find it, I'll post. BTW- 60 hz refresh on computer screens gives me vertigo in about 3 minutes. 75 or greater and I can not see it. If the PWM frequency is high enough you won't see flicker anyway.
__________________
Bill

RV-7
Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-21-2013, 08:05 PM
Bill.Peyton's Avatar
Bill.Peyton Bill.Peyton is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,785
Default

Good point...not all PWM dimmers operate the same
__________________
Bill Peyton
RV-10 - 1125 hrs
N37CP
First Flight Oct 2012
Aviation Partners, LLC
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-22-2013, 11:47 AM
g3xpert's Avatar
g3xpert g3xpert is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 2,882
Default

Hello Matt,

The low-frequency PWM output from most dimmer units is designed to drive a string of light bulbs, which don't care too much about input frequency. Unfortunately this doesn't always play well with modern digital avionics, no matter who the manufacturer is. In my airplane I installed a LC-50 dimming unit, which has both PWM and analog voltage outputs. The PWM outputs go to my LED cockpit lights and the analog outputs go to the lighting bus inputs on my various avionics. For this purpose you can use any dimmer that has an analog output, or even a simple potentiometer - remember that this signal doesn't actually have to supply any power, it's just supplying a voltage reference to a computer's input pin!

good luck,
- Matt
__________________
Garmin G3X Support
g3xpert@garmin.com
1-866-854-8433 - 7 to 7 Central Time M to F
Please email us for support instead of using Private Messaging due to the limitations of the latter.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-23-2013, 06:45 AM
MarkChristopher MarkChristopher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 16
Default

Matt, I have the same setup with the LC-50. I have 5 Garmin devices that I need to dim. Is it possible to combine all those into a single LC-50 input (AO1 for example) or will it end up drawing too much current?
Thanks,
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-23-2013, 07:11 AM
g3xpert's Avatar
g3xpert g3xpert is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 2,882
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkChristopher View Post
Matt, I have the same setup with the LC-50. I have 5 Garmin devices that I need to dim. Is it possible to combine all those into a single LC-50 input (AO1 for example) or will it end up drawing too much current?
Mark,

Your setup is essentially the same as I have on my airplane, where it works great. As I said above, the lighting bus inputs on modern avionics draw only a tiny amount of current, since the lighting bus voltage is not directly driving the display backlight. For further detailed information I would recommend checking with the manufacturer of the LC-50 unit.

- Matt
__________________
Garmin G3X Support
g3xpert@garmin.com
1-866-854-8433 - 7 to 7 Central Time M to F
Please email us for support instead of using Private Messaging due to the limitations of the latter.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:04 PM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.