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08-30-2006, 11:56 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 38
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builder log software recommendations?
I see Kit Log Pro on Van's website.
Is that the software everyone is using? Or are there others that people recommend?
I appreciate everyones input.
Lance
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08-30-2006, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Grand Rapids MI
Posts: 742
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I'm using it.
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08-30-2006, 12:09 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastvale, CA
Posts: 378
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That's the one
I'm using it.
I thought about just making a spreadsheet for it, but this is reasonably priced and pretty easy to use.
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Bart Filipiak
Eastvale, CA
RV-8 N74VB
Barrett IO-390
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08-30-2006, 12:23 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,563
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Originally Posted by vmirv8bldr
I'm using it.
I thought about just making a spreadsheet for it, but this is reasonably priced and pretty easy to use.
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My .02 on builder logging.
I am not using this or any other computerized logging program. I am sure they are all very good programs. However, I have found that the actual installation manual serves as a very good build log. I simply made a copy of the installation instructions and have it in a binder in the shop. Each task performed gets a check mark next to it and then as each section of the build is completed I mark in the date of completion for that section. If I need to make any particular notes I simply make them in the margins of the page. This method does not require me to spend additional time making notations on a computer. I make all of the notations right there in the shop as I am working.
I work as a systems administrator for a living so I fully understand the functionality and utility of computer programs such as these log files. I certainly do not see anything wrong with using them. However, for me, I find the simple method of pencil and paper much more manageable for this task. I find it is hard enough for me to find time to work on my airplane without time being taken away because I have to learn to use and then manage a computer and logging program. I do not feel I can afford to be taking more time away from building by having to manage another computer program that tracks my progress when there is a much more simple way to do so.
As I said, my .02 worth.
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08-30-2006, 01:41 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,452
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I am using it and for the most part I like it. Once the entry is made into the data base, I then print it and keep a hard copy for my files.
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08-30-2006, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: California's vast Central Valley
Posts: 571
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When the FAA inspector came out to inspect my RV-4 he didn't so much as glance at the meticulous builder's log I had kept complete with pictures. Pretty disappointing, after all, I made it for him!
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Originally Posted by RVbySDI
My .02 on builder logging.
I am not using this or any other computerized logging program. [snip]
I work as a systems administrator for a living ... [snip]
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I'm a sysadmin too and I have the same trouble keeping electronic logs, it's a real pain but I did it. I think it's because we're on these computer gizmos all day long that the last thing we want to see when we get home is another computer!  IMO
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08-30-2006, 02:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 59
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I'm using KitLog Pro 2.0, and I like it.
Pros:
An added bonus is the ability to automatically post your construction log to their website ( www.mykitlog.com). Every time you update the log on your hard drive, just click the button, and it automatically loads the updated logs and photos to the web. Pretty slick.
Cons:
The program has a few bugs, and a revision is due out shortly (v2.1). According to the website...
KitLog Pro v2.1 is Coming Soon! Get ready for v2.1! New features include a revised expense log and enhancements to MyKitLog.com.
I've been doing some beta testing of this update for the developer, and I know he's getting close to issuing it.
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08-30-2006, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stone Mountain, Georgia
Posts: 483
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I have been using Kitlog for about 14 months and it is great. All my friends keep up with my project on the internet and it is very easy to use. The only downside I can find is that Vans will not link your Kitlog site to their web site because they feel it contains an advertisement for Kitlog. Although you can, through several clicks, purchase the Kitlog software from the builder's sites, it is hardly advertisement. In addition, I can hardly understand Van's stance since they sell the Kitlog software also. Go figure.
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Stone Mountain, GA
N184RW (reserved)
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08-30-2006, 03:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,563
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Originally Posted by svanarts
When the FAA inspector came out to inspect my RV-4 he didn't so much as glance at the meticulous builder's log I had kept complete with pictures. Pretty disappointing, after all, I made it for him! 
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I have had the same experience with a previous airplane that I built. I had pictures and all sorts of documentation "proving" that I had actually done the construction of the airplane that the FAA inspector was looking over. I asked him if he wanted to see any of my construction pictures or anything. He said, "No, I can tell just by talking to you whether you did the work on the plane or not". He never once wanted to see any of my documentation.
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Originally Posted by svanarts
I'm a sysadmin too and I have the same trouble keeping electronic logs, it's a real pain but I did it. I think it's because we're on these computer gizmos all day long that the last thing we want to see when we get home is another computer!  IMO
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That is exactly right! I am so tired of working on computers all day that when I get home the last thing I want to do is turn one on and enter some data that I know no one cares about but me. That is why I have gone the paper and pencil route. Keeping notes in the shop is so much easier. The absolute best recommendation I have for using a pencil is that the pencil doesn't take 10 minutes to power up before I can use it!
For those out there who want to create websites for their creations and see using these computerized logs to keep their websites updated I say, I applaud your endeavors. By doing so you give me much to look at, study and enjoy when I am online researching RV related issues. Thank you very much for doing so. For me, however, I sometimes wonder where you guys get your energy to do that and build an airplane. Many nights I find myself forcing myself to get out in the shop and do something. Many a night I come home from fixing this or that computer problem exhausted. I find myself with just enough energy to plop down and watch some mindless TV or something. Just building this wonderful machine takes enough energy. The last thing I want to do is then sit down at a computer and write up a bunch of notes on what I did the night before.
Wishing all those with more energy than I happy logging. 
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08-30-2006, 03:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: East Troy, WI
Posts: 1,983
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I used it and found it generated nice reports. Also has expense log, mnt log, and W&B.
Roberta
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Built Glen L "ZIP" Classic Outboard Runabout and Super Spartan Hydroplane
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