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09-24-2013, 01:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TX32
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At your own risk...
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Originally Posted by grubbat
If you have a private airstrip, what do you currently require from folks who want to land on your property? I am primarily interested in hearing from those of you who have existing private strips.
I got mine approved recently and I know that, being in the Atlanta area, I will get visitors and requests to land. Being that mine is a bit tricky, I want to see what others are doing in this regard.
Thanks
cj
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CJ,
My private turf strip isn't insured and listed on the charts as Private, prior permission required. Anybody desiring a visit that I don't know I thoroughly interview, email photos of the final approach, talk techniques and discuss contingencies. I also make sure I'm home when they visit, use a handheld VHF for CTAF and act as an LSO for them. Needless to say, with 1500' usable (2200' total), the visitors willing to land here are qualified. Restricted is a whole different animal, probably a better way to go legality and usability wise.
My insurance covers me and my airplane but nobody else. I asked them about signing releases, waivers etc and my company said "when it's posted private and they land, they are on their own".
V/R
Smokey
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09-24-2013, 01:41 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Jackson Hole Wy
Posts: 57
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I have a private strip on my ranch here in Wyoming,2WY3. Until last year I would grant people the right to land there and it was limited to a few locals like Harrison Ford... Then this year the Wyoming legislature passed a recreation liability law that is directed at private strips and prevents suits against the land owners. I am in the process of having the FAA list it as private ownership / public use. I have had it on the charts since the beginning in case a fellow pilot needed to use the nearest function on his GPS if they had a problem...
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09-24-2013, 01:56 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3,179
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I have a private airstrip that is registered with the FAA. it is "Private, prior permission required." it has a big "R" on the sectional. It is "land at your own risk".
There is a nice 4000' paved public use airport and I'm happy to pick pilots up so there is not reason to attempt my field.
For those asking what it is like for me to land at my airstrip, I point them to 53VG.com. This explains the traffic pattern, CTAF frequency, my taxi route, and has a video detailing what I see when I use my field.
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09-24-2013, 02:40 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Round Rock, TX
Posts: 3,778
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Originally Posted by humptybump
For those asking what it is like for me to land at my airstrip, I point them to 53VG.com. This explains the traffic pattern, CTAF frequency, my taxi route, and has a video detailing what I see when I use my field.
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Glen... that is way cool!!! 
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09-24-2013, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Clarksboro, NJ
Posts: 829
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When I look at a sectional, the closest airport to my destination is almost always a Restricted airport. I would love access to those, so I try to keep access open to mine; but only to qualified pilots/planes. I have been contemplating forming a non-profit association of restricted airport owners for just this reason. We could share information like you are requesting and establish reciprocity agreements. ? I?m much more comfortable letting a fellow grass strip owner land VS a guy wanting his first grass landing in a rented 152. Wouldn?t it be great if 1,000?s of us belonged to a group that has a blanket insurance policy for members and said ?If you meet these qualifications you can land at my facility?
Every state has different liability laws. There are two separate issues. The first is how to protect yourself. The second is how to control use of your airstrip. - I get 4 or 5 unauthorized landings a year (that I know of). It does not matter that your field is Restricted when someone decides that they are exempt; and in New Jersey you are liable for your uninvited guests. For this reason, make sure you carry insurance and enforce whatever usage procedures and restrictions you have. You can't do much about someone landing there without permission unless you want to be a real jerk, but you can get the tail number and send a nicely worded letter explaining your procedures for granting permission and ask the pilot to follow those procedures in the future. This way you can demonstrate enforcement of the Restricted classification, which will be important if you have to defend a suit from an unauthorized pilot.
For granting permission I have a written procedure and a written application that clearly states permission is not granted until signed and returned by me. Anyone landing without it does not have permission. On the application I am asking for things like TO/LD performance of their plane, date of last BFR, medical, Annual inspection, hours in make & model, short field experience, etc. It identifies the dates and weather conditions that the permission is valid for, and includes a waiver statement. It also includes a detailed description of the hazards and procedures. ? There is no opportunity for a go-around at my field, and 60 foot trees are waiting for you at the end, so I want written proof that the person landing knew that before coming and signed a form saying they were properly qualified.
Send me your e-mail and I can send you copies of what I have.
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09-24-2013, 09:23 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stone Mountain, Georgia
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Why is lawyer bashing OK?
[text deleted...this is not the place to solve society's problems; S. Buchanan]
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09-24-2013, 11:28 PM
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Location: San Diego, CA
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[more text deleted for the same reasons as stated above; S. Buchanan]
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09-25-2013, 05:45 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stone Mountain, Georgia
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That is brilliant
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09-25-2013, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Hastings, MN
Posts: 582
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n801bh
Then this year the Wyoming legislature passed a recreation liability law that is directed at private strips and prevents suits against the land owners.
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Minnesota currently has a bill in progress that would accomplish the same things. There is already a recreation liability law for protecting people that have land with public use space on them like bike paths and hiking trails. The legislation that is proposed would add private airstrips to the existing law.
Let's hope it actually passes.
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09-25-2013, 08:14 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ga
Posts: 662
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Thanks
Thanks for all the posts concerning private airstrips. I appreciate the diverse feedback.
Cj
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