VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-22-2013, 07:33 PM
s_tones s_tones is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 114
Default pipe thread question

I have a Tee (an826-6) that tightens via 3/8" tapered pipe thread into the gascolator.
The upright leg of the Tee must be vertical to mate with fuel pump.
Unfortunately the pipe thread goes from loose to fully tight in an arc of about 90 degrees which does not happen to bring the Tee vertical as needed.
There is no room for an adapter.

Is there any way to deal with this that I am not seeing?

Teflon tape would do it but I do not want to use it for the usual reason (it leaves debris in the threads)

Any comments appreciated.

Steve
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-22-2013, 07:46 PM
g zero g zero is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: palm coast fl.
Posts: 945
Default Pipe thread

You can chase the thread with a tap to get your tee to index where you need too.
Tom
__________________
Rv8
N 666 TA
First Flight 2-3-2015 🚀
2017 donation paid
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-22-2013, 08:13 PM
s_tones s_tones is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 114
Default

Can you explain how this would be done?
I am guessing you would be widening the female threads somewhat by driving the tap onto the female threads a bit?

Thanks

Steve
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-23-2013, 07:04 AM
NYTOM NYTOM is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
Posts: 1,128
Wink Be very careful with Aluminum

Steve you should try another 3/8 " nipple in the gascolator to make sure what tread wasn't cut deep enough. If the second nipple tightens the same as the Tee then the gascolator female port wasn't cut deep enough. If not then the Tee is faulty. Ideally about 2 & 1/2 turns by hand should be able to be made before things start to get tight. If you do need to open it up a bit, make sure you have a nice sharp (new) tap and be sure to use a Aluminum lubricant. Aluminum threads gall very easliy and things can go south very fast. Take it in small steps and totally remove the tap and clean it at every step. Even a very small chip of aluminum stuck in the tap will cause trouble and tear up the threads. Probably the best thing to do would be to practice on a old fitting or drill and tap some news holes in a piece of solid stock to get the feel of it.
__________________
Tom Norwood
Classic "Short Tail 6A N822PM
TMX-O360. Phase 1
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-23-2013, 07:23 AM
Wayne Gillispie Wayne Gillispie is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 1,499
Default

Like mentioned...Try another fitting with proper sealant/never teflon tape.

http://www.ring-plug-thread-gages.co...NGT-vs-NPT.htm

Ensure you use the correct tap by checking with the manufacturer. Tap if needed after cleaning threads and applying alum cutting lubricant. Clean thoroughly. Reapply sealant and try again. I try to get 4 threads deep on that size fitting.
__________________
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-23-2013, 08:16 AM
TX7A TX7A is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Abilene, TX
Posts: 724
Default

In case you have an Andair gascolator, then you can 'clock' the fitting around without compromising the tapered pipe fitting. Its in the instructions.
__________________
Sam Evans
RV7-A O-360 C/S
VAF#812
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-23-2013, 08:25 AM
s_tones s_tones is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 114
Default

Thanks to all.
It is not so much a matter of depth since i can screw in 5-6 threads at least. Just that it tightens at wrong angle. I have a new Tee on order and will try the fit. If no better may send them both to manufacturer. Maybe they will mate them
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-23-2013, 09:38 AM
Mel's Avatar
Mel Mel is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
Default

Proper pipe threads should have one full turn after snug for clocking.
__________________
Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-23-2013, 03:16 PM
flion's Avatar
flion flion is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 2,647
Default

At least. Here is a link - http://www.mechanicsupport.com/articleFittingTight.html. There is no way you should be unable to clock any NPT fitting unless you have bottomed out.
__________________
Patrick Kelley - Flagstaff, AZ
RV-6A N156PK - Flying too much to paint
RV-10 14MX(reserved) - Fuselage on gear
http://www.mykitlog.com/flion/
EAA Technical Counselor #5357
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-24-2013, 12:41 PM
s_tones s_tones is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 114
Default thanks

Thanks to all.
Excellent resource as always!

Steve
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:20 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.