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09-12-2013, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Static line access
Afternoon!
Could some one help me with a decision please. I was plumbing the static line to the various gages in panel. Basic set up is: Static line to a Safe air manifold, then branch off to the Alt, the ASI, the VSI, and the encoder. All from the manifold. Its a simple and clean way to do it but now I realize I dont know where the test equipment is to be tied in during the biennial transponder check.
Sooo... Should I add a t-fitting before the manifold and pug the unused port to tie in there or should I tee in AFTER the manifold and do same thing? Does it matter?
What is done when they tie in? I assume they pressurize and test for leaks maybe?
Why is transponder turned on during test? Do they pressurize to say 1000 feet AGL and then check transponder signal or something?
Basicly need a transponder/static sys check for dummies explanation and how I can make my system easily accesable later.
Its VFR and encoder is simple ameriking.
Thanks guys!
Bill
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09-12-2013, 05:27 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 45G, Brighton, MI
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When I've been there while my 170 was being done, they use the static port on the outside of the airplane. No breaking in to the system; no need to provide a test port.
Transponder and altimeter get tested to 20000 ft (I think in 2000 ft increments??).
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1955 Cessna 170B flying since 1982
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Last edited by longranger : 09-12-2013 at 05:30 PM.
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09-12-2013, 05:31 PM
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I just had my xpnder check this week, and it was done with only a electronic gadget that sat on a tripod next to the plane. No actual physical contact with the plane at all.
The tech said that for a VAF certification, there was no need to check the static or pitot system.
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09-12-2013, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
I just had my xpnder check this week, and it was done with only a electronic gadget that sat on a tripod next to the plane. No actual physical contact with the plane at all.
The tech said that for a VAF certification, there was no need to check the static or pitot system.
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How can you gauge the accuracy of your encoder without applying the various altitudes to the static system???
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Miles (VAF# 1238, Paid up as of 2018)
RV-7 TU 904KM (reserved)
Wings Fitted and Finish Kit on site
Construction Log
Picasa: Empennage Album, Wings Album, Fuselage Album
1955 Cessna 170B flying since 1982
'To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.' -Unk.
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09-12-2013, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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Rather than doing a bunch of copy and pasting, check my FAQ page on my website, I think it should answer all your questions, if not please let me know.
http://www.expaircraft.com/faq.htm
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EXP Aircraft Services LLC
Specializing in RV Condition Inspections, Maintenance, Avionics Upgrades
Dynamic Prop Balancing, Pitot-Static Altmeter/Transponder Certification
FAA Certified Repair Station, AP/IA/FCC GROL, EAA Technical Counselor
Authorized Garmin G3X Dealer/Installer
RV7A built 2004, 1700+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags
Website: ExpAircraft.com, Email: walt@expaircraft.com, Cell: 972-746-5154
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09-12-2013, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by longranger
How can you gauge the accuracy of your encoder without applying the various altitudes to the static system???
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Set the EFIS to 29.92". The encoder is in the EFIS. This may not work for steam panels with separate encoders??
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VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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09-12-2013, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
Set the EFIS to 29.92". The encoder is in the EFIS. This may not work for steam panels with separate encoders??
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Still, you've got to change the pressure physically applied to the static system somehow, no matter where the encoder is.
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Miles (VAF# 1238, Paid up as of 2018)
RV-7 TU 904KM (reserved)
Wings Fitted and Finish Kit on site
Construction Log
Picasa: Empennage Album, Wings Album, Fuselage Album
1955 Cessna 170B flying since 1982
'To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.' -Unk.
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09-12-2013, 05:51 PM
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Miles, I have no idea what is needed, I only followed the instructions the guy with the license gave me.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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09-12-2013, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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An easily accessible test port on RV's can be a handy thing, sometimes my equipment has trouble sealing on the 'rivet' static port.
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Walt Aronow, DFW, TX (52F)
EXP Aircraft Services LLC
Specializing in RV Condition Inspections, Maintenance, Avionics Upgrades
Dynamic Prop Balancing, Pitot-Static Altmeter/Transponder Certification
FAA Certified Repair Station, AP/IA/FCC GROL, EAA Technical Counselor
Authorized Garmin G3X Dealer/Installer
RV7A built 2004, 1700+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags
Website: ExpAircraft.com, Email: walt@expaircraft.com, Cell: 972-746-5154
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09-12-2013, 05:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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You can do a transponder-only check (does it receive interrogations and reply properly) without connecting to the airplane, but you HAVE to connect to the static system to check encoder accuracy.
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Miles (VAF# 1238, Paid up as of 2018)
RV-7 TU 904KM (reserved)
Wings Fitted and Finish Kit on site
Construction Log
Picasa: Empennage Album, Wings Album, Fuselage Album
1955 Cessna 170B flying since 1982
'To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.' -Unk.
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