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08-07-2013, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern Michigan
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HELP ME! I Can't Get My Andair Gas Caps OFF!!
It's been about 4 years since I built my gas tanks. The Andair locking gas caps worked fine then. I greased up the seals, put them on, cleaned up the tops and taped over the caps to keep paint/dust out and left it like that until last month. Last week at the airport, I attempted to open the tank caps to start gassing and calibrating the probes and the key would hardly go in either side. I soaked the key opening and filled the cylinder up with Mouse Milk for several days. That helped some and I can get the key in and wiggle it to bottom out but it won't unlock. I also used WD-40 soaking for 2 days, added heat, poked with a dental pick, blew it out under pressure and still no help. I have already put a bend in one of the keys and don't want to use any more force trying to get the cylinder to turn. The cap will turn a couple degrees then hit the stop. The cylinder will also move a degree or two. My guess is internal corrosion from electrolysis since no contaminants could enter the lock. Any suggestions before I call a locksmith out or destroy the locks?? 
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08-07-2013, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Contact Andair
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08-07-2013, 06:41 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Clarksboro, NJ
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Fill the key slot with arecroil and then put a vibrator on it to free up the pins. It might take a few minutes. Get the 110 V kind that many drug stores sell.
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08-07-2013, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marshall TX (KASL)
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I assume you are referring to the buzzing coil used in Model T ignition systems and as a part of the "shower of sparks" aviation ignition systems - also called a trembler coil. But those are DC powered, not 110 VAC. And I don't think they are available at Walgreens!
Or perhaps you mean the electromechanical device used in inverters before the advent of switch-mode power supplies? Again, I don't think you can get them in the Walmart pharmaceutical section!
I don't know why a CD from the British punk band "The Vibrators" would help, and the music section at CVS would not tend to stock an obscure group like that!
Perhaps you mean the sustainer pickup option on some electric guitars, but it would take a specialty music store to obtain one rather than Rite-Aid.
So I am stumped?!! Perhaps someone else can figure this out?
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08-07-2013, 07:52 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern Michigan
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I got an email into Andair but no reply as of yet. I got some Kroil penetrating oil at my other hanger up north. I'll bring it home next week and give it a try. Vibrator,,,,,,,hmmmmmmmmm.  I thought there might be some kind of magical liquid available I don't know about that would disolve or free up the corrosion.
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Howell, MI
RV-10: #41686 Under Construction
RV-9A: #90949 Under Construction
RV-10: #40637 Completed/Sold 2016
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08-07-2013, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Olympia,WA
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coca cola
This is what i used to free pistons from the cylinders in a 1275 motor from my 1964 mini cooper. YMMV Give it a shot.
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08-07-2013, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9GT
Vibrator,,,,,,,hmmmmmmmmm.  I thought there might be some kind of magical liquid available I don't know about that would disolve or free up the corrosion.
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Look near the vibrators at the drug store.

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08-07-2013, 08:43 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marshall TX (KASL)
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Chanel #5 might loosen them up. Wouldn't hurt to apologize to them for all that neglect...
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08-07-2013, 09:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern Michigan
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Oh Boy,,,this thread is drifting to the point of lock down  . I goggled the problem and the results are basically an argument of which lubricant to use, dry graphite or liquid. The coke thing might work. I need something liquid that can penetrate and break down the powdery corrosion,,,then I can flush it out and lubricate. From what I found to be a common agreement is that WD-40 will evaporate and leave a varnish like deposit in the pins and springs which is a bad thing. Liquid lubricants also attract dust and the like that can clog things up. Dry lubes like powder graphite are usually over done by the average person and will also cause problems when over done.
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David C.
Howell, MI
RV-10: #41686 Under Construction
RV-9A: #90949 Under Construction
RV-10: #40637 Completed/Sold 2016
Cozy MKIV:#656 Completed/Sold 2007
"Donor Exempt" but donated through Dec. 2020
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08-08-2013, 01:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mpumalanga, South Africa
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Somebody in the UK did some tests to find the best freeing agent. It turned out to be a 50/50 mix of acetone and transmission oil. You might try that together with some technical taps with a soft hammer.
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