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08-03-2013, 04:45 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Santiago, Chile
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First night VFR on my 8!!!
Hi folks,
On Agoust 1st I flew night VFR for the first time my RV-8 over Chilean skies, takeoff and landing was from SCSE. This took me years to change mind on Chilean FAA guys so they now allow me to fly IFR and night VFR.
Maybe a little flight for a RV but a huge step for Chilean aviation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNEog...ature=youtu.be
Happy flying,
Fernando
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Santiago Chile
SubSonex waiting for tailkit to arrive 
Flying phase II RV-8 (SCSE) Serial Number 83290, Tail Number CC-AJC
Flying RV-8 (SCTB) Phase II 600 hours and counting since February 22nd 2010
Serial Number 82727, Tail Number CC-PXG
Lyc. IO-360, Hartzell Prop
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08-03-2013, 04:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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Congratulations.
Fernando, I remember the IFR restriction that you posted about a few years ago.
What did you have to do to get them to allow both IFR and Night flight? Is this for all experimentals or on a case by case basis?
Best,
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RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
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It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
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08-03-2013, 05:00 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Santiago, Chile
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pierre smith
Fernando, I remember the IFR restriction that you posted about a few years ago.
What did you have to do to get them to allow both IFR and Night flight? Is this for all experimentals or on a case by case basis?
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Hi Pierre,
This is for all experimental in Chile
I have to study a lot your FAR and regulation and show Chilean FAA that flying an experimental plane at night is not more dangerous than flying a certify one, also I manage to prove them that flying IFR is safer than VFR, that was using Chilean FAA statistic that shows 8 fatal accident here in Chile from planes flying VFR that flew into IMC, but there is no accident of planes flying IFR flew IMC, at least at Chilean records.
Now our new fight is GPS approaches and RNAV, is not going to be easy but we will
Cheers,
Fernando
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Fernando Abasolo
Santiago Chile
SubSonex waiting for tailkit to arrive 
Flying phase II RV-8 (SCSE) Serial Number 83290, Tail Number CC-AJC
Flying RV-8 (SCTB) Phase II 600 hours and counting since February 22nd 2010
Serial Number 82727, Tail Number CC-PXG
Lyc. IO-360, Hartzell Prop
VAF #2056
EAA Member 774981
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08-03-2013, 05:42 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brisbane Qld. Aust.
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Now our new fight is GPS approaches and RNAV
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Is there another way
Good work and good luck. With regulators there is always a battle and you need to work hard to battle the stupidity.
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08-03-2013, 06:06 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Santiago, Chile
Posts: 447
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Originally Posted by RV10inOz
Is there another way
Good work and good luck. With regulators there is always a battle and you need to work hard to battle the stupidity.
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Our general and comercial aviation here in Chile is not so bad, but all advances come from private fighting again (no with) government agencies. All GPS aproaches here in Chile has been made and paid by Comercial Operator and then give it to Chilean FAA, we don't have ADS-B and they almost don't know it exist, we don't have ground weather radars or even an ATIS in all country  but they spend all money and they have a lot, hiring retiree people from Air Force
All pilot here in Chile want to have a Civil Avition Agency in the near future
Cheers,
Fernando
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Fernando Abasolo
Santiago Chile
SubSonex waiting for tailkit to arrive 
Flying phase II RV-8 (SCSE) Serial Number 83290, Tail Number CC-AJC
Flying RV-8 (SCTB) Phase II 600 hours and counting since February 22nd 2010
Serial Number 82727, Tail Number CC-PXG
Lyc. IO-360, Hartzell Prop
VAF #2056
EAA Member 774981
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08-03-2013, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,690
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Wow. Congratulations and keep up the good fight.
Do you expect to be able to create an approach? Or do you think the cost will be prohibitive for an individual or small group of individuals?
I think that would be very cool to have developed an approach (at my home airport for instance) 
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ME/AE '82
RV-7A: Flying since April 15, 2012. 850 hrs
YIO-360-M1B, mags, CS, GRT EX and WS H1s & A/P, Navworx
Unpainted, polished....kinda'... Eyeballin' vinyl really hard.
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08-03-2013, 06:37 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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I know that MGL Avionics has an internally built system whereby you can create what they call, a "GLS" approach to anywhere, or coordinates to your house, for example, with both vertical and lateral guidance. This system would fit right in, in Chile.
Perhaps GRT and AFS has the same capability.
Best,
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Pierre Smith
RV-10, 510 TT
RV6A (Sojourner) 180 HP, Catto 3 Bl (502Hrs), gone...and already missed
Air Tractor AT 502B PT 6-15 Sold
Air Tractor 402 PT-6-20 Sold
EAA Flight Advisor/CFI/Tech Counselor
Louisville, Ga
It's never skill or craftsmanship that completes airplanes, it's the will to do so,
Patrick Kenny, EAA 275132
Dues gladly paid!
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08-03-2013, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yorkshire, England
Posts: 2,048
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Creating a GPS approach to a safe cloudbreak isn't difficult. My partner has created one for our airfield both in the Garmin 695 database and a printed copy just like a Jepp plate.
Looked at local obstacles, create an IAF, and FF and MAP, define the go around to the hold and bingo, you are there.
Ours terminates at an MDA of 450', runway is at 26' amsl.
Now - this is for day vfr use, but then, you never know when things may suddenly deteriorate - eh 
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08-03-2013, 11:22 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Pedro
Posts: 1,013
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Congratulations
Congrats on your victory. IFR and night flying are a big part of our sport. You have shown what can be done by perseverance and intelligence. Fly on! 
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08-03-2013, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,690
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Pierre,
Yes the GRT stuff has "synthetic approaches" to any airport that has GPS data in the EFIS database (from GRT or put in by the user).
Mike,
The approach you are speaking of. Is that now publicly useable as a published approach or does it remain something that the locals use privately?
If it is a published one, good on ya!
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Bill Pendergrass
ME/AE '82
RV-7A: Flying since April 15, 2012. 850 hrs
YIO-360-M1B, mags, CS, GRT EX and WS H1s & A/P, Navworx
Unpainted, polished....kinda'... Eyeballin' vinyl really hard.
Yeah. The boss got a Silhouette Cameo 4 Xmas 2019.
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