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Old 07-19-2013, 04:05 PM
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Gotta agree with that! Take a weekend course and do your own inspections, do all your own work - or not! The factory planes are pretty but I've seen plenty of -12s that are nicer. There was one for sale on the forum a couple of days ago. I personally do not see the attraction of S-LSA if there is an E-LSA version but I do think that S-LSA RV-12s are a very good thing for the E-LSA RV-12 fleet.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:09 PM
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I know this is a very small thing, but ELSAs may use 3" N numbers.
SLSAs require 12".
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:14 PM
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Also, some insurance companies like Avemco, will not take on new SLSA policies. They will, however, insure an ELSA -12. When I asked if they would continue to insure my SLSA CT if I converted to ELSA, they said no. But my -12 is not a problem. I asked why and they mumbled something about then I could start making changes to the CT. I said that would be the case on my -12 but they said that was OK. Go figure!

I switched.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:15 PM
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Been flying one of the first 12 factory RV-12s and am in love with it. Great handling (what else would you expect?), excellent performance, good load-carrying capacity. I have lots of good things to say about it. About 110 knots on 4.3 gph.

Any specific questions?
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:02 PM
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Mr. Sandpiper is correct. In many ways SLSA rules are stricter than certified aircraft.

The one way in which you can do mods without factory approval would be to re-certificate the aircraft as an ELSA under 21.191(i)(3).

After that, factory restrictions are removed, but the aircraft may no longer be used for compensation.
And it would most likely, depending on the prospective buyer, reduce the resale value of the aircraft.
Thanks Mel. This is complex and not completely understood by most of us coming from a lifetime of "traditional' aircraft. Since you are well known and respected on this forum, and I hardly post at all, your support probably saved a lot of posting.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:48 PM
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I know this is a very small thing, but ELSAs may use 3" N numbers.
SLSAs require 12".
But then you'll be good to go for the Bahamas without using those big tape-on numbers.....

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Old 07-20-2013, 12:35 AM
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Been flying one of the first 12 factory RV-12s...110 knots on 4.3 gph.
Somebody back me up. My math is calling it 29.4 miles/gallon...of car gas. Good for a second grin.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:31 AM
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29.437984496124

Backe up calculated as requested, and concurs.

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Old 07-20-2013, 01:47 PM
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Been flying one of the first 12 factory RV-12s and am in love with it. Great handling (what else would you expect?), excellent performance, good load-carrying capacity. I have lots of good things to say about it. About 110 knots on 4.3 gph.

Any specific questions?
What top speed are you seeing?

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Old 07-20-2013, 03:40 PM
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[quote=Jzimmerman;789750]Been flying one of the first 12 factory RV-12s and am in love with it. Great handling (what else would you expect?), excellent performance, good load-carrying capacity. I have lots of good things to say about it. About 110 knots on 4.3 gph.

I get about 5.7 to 6.0 gal per hour on all the RV-12s I been flying (many) at that cruise speed. Mike
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