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07-11-2013, 08:51 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Panel Indicator Lights
I'm probably not the first to use these, but just wanted to make the group aware just in case.
I bought these panel indicator lights from MPJA.com. They are 12X16mm LED lights. They are already wired with a resistor so they work with 12v.
The lens is made of two parts: a colored outer lens, and a white diffuser. Both are just press-fit so they can be removed. I removed the lenses and used a label maker with clear-tape to put labels on the diffuser. The tape is a little wider than the light, so there is no edge. I put the diffuser back in the lens. The labels are now protected from damage. I think they look pretty good.
Total invested for all four: about $4. (I already had the label maker). Mounting holes are a hair over 15/32 and 3/4" spacing (parts are metric, but that is close enough). If I had a fancier label maker, I could have made the text larger, but mine is pretty basic with only one font and character spacing.
I plan to add a test button, but haven't done so yet. I don't have them wired in the panel yet, but in bench testing the light level looked appropriate (bright enough, but not too bright).

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07-11-2013, 09:03 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Abilene, TX
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I have the exact same lights, Colin. I think it was Paul Dye who first put me on to them way back when. They look & work good. (I'm not flying yet)
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07-11-2013, 09:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: new iberia la
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Panel annunciator lights
Can these be dimmed?
Don B
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07-11-2013, 09:36 PM
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I think so, Don. Again, I think it was Paul that built-in a bright & dim switch in the circuitry. I think he used a 4PDT switch and resistors to accomplish it. Some annunciators will need a negative voltage while others need positive.
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07-11-2013, 09:58 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Redding,Ca
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Buy spares!
I had 2-3 failures on mine before I got 6 good ones in there, all failed during phase 1, none since (200hrs). Since Mpj has a min order I'd suggest you go ahead and get your spares now since they are like a buck apiece.
Tim
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07-12-2013, 04:52 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tim2542
I had 2-3 failures on mine before I got 6 good ones in there, all failed during phase 1, none since (200hrs). Since Mpj has a min order I'd suggest you go ahead and get your spares now since they are like a buck apiece.
Tim
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I'm sure there is some get-what-you-pay-for in those lights. I have extras just in case. You could always tear them down and replace the LED and resistor. More than likely the resistor is the failure point.
As for dimming; resistors aren't ideal for dimming LEDs, but will get the job done. As noted already, you will want a separate resistor for each indicator. That way the dim level dosn't change if more than one light is on at a time.
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07-12-2013, 10:15 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I've seen these same lights in the panel of another member here, Lycosaurus (Alfio). He's running them on a Perihelion PWM dimmer. Yes, I'm almost certainly going to copy his idea... :-)
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07-12-2013, 12:00 PM
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As a few mentioned, I have been using these for a number of years now, and they really work well - look good, are easy to put int he system, cheap, etc. I HAVE had a couple of them fail however, so when you use them, make sure that you plan for replacement. The first panel I did with them, I put them through individual holes and soldered everything togetehr, figuring they were LED's, and would outlast the airplane. It made it a pain to replace one later. On the latest panel, I used D-sub pins and sockets to connect each LED to the system, so chnaging one will be a piece of cake. You pay so lilttle for the indicators, a couple of pairs of D-Subs shoudl be trivial.
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07-12-2013, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironflight
I used D-sub pins and sockets to connect each LED to the system,
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I also have used just the male/female D-sub pins with shrink tube for similar things, makes it easy and is light weight and not bulky like a complete D-sub connector is.
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