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07-04-2013, 09:15 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Shorewood, Il.
Posts: 230
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Originally Posted by az_gila
The trouble is that the existing (old) registration document looks like it is current since it has no expiration date printed on it...
The ARROW check does not encompass the regulation change...
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Yes, but aren't all of the old ones already purged and any current registration out there on the two year cycle? My other plane would probably be due again if I hadn't sold it already.
I tend to live oblivious to news and I knew about this. Anyone who didn't know about the new two year cycle would really have to live like a hermit. Of course forgetting about getting it done is a whole different story, but should be easily remembered when you go to fly again. "Where am I in that cycle? Ok I'm good, lets go."
Mark
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07-04-2013, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Shorewood, Il.
Posts: 230
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To answer the OP's question: yes, it is a scam. They are doing it under the guise of "purging registrations of aircraft that no longer exist" and cleaning up those that have sat neglected in the interest of "security". However the real answer is one that I should not type in respect of the forum rules.
Mark
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07-04-2013, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 2,653
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I would not depend on mailed notification. I have had the number for my RV-10 reserved since I began the build and every year I have received a renewal notification ... until this year. This thread jogged my memory and, sure enough, my reservation expired in February. Fortunately, no one took it (so far) and I have requested it again. Yes, I know you are talking registration as opposed to reserving a number but it is the same part of the agency (and operates from the same database). I'm not sure if it was a simple foul-up or budget cuts or what but the point is that even if it normally works, if it doesn't it still is your problem, not theirs. So I will put a reminder in my calendar for both aircraft now and not be caught out again. Imagine if I had lost my number and had already painted the aircraft... 
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07-04-2013, 12:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,797
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I wouldn't call it a scam. It is a typical bureaucratic response to a perceived problem - in this case, too many aircraft sold, or address changed, without notifying the FAA. I've seen it posted here ("I sold my plane 7 months ago but haven't changed the registration yet....").
Of course they hoped to make money, too, by charging high fees for this. For now, that got beaten down to $5, but in the future....
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07-04-2013, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Midland, mi
Posts: 962
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A hermit? I have talked to several other new pilots and neither of them knew about this. As I recall it was not on the VFR examine nor was it in any book that I read. Then I bought not a plane as a 10% owner. There is one other 10% owner, then the 80% owner, who runs the LLC. Any particular reason I would know that a plane had to be reregistered. I knew that you only paid taxes on a plane when you purchase and get it registered it, but I was not aware of the renewal process. So I guess I must be a hermit.
Then the main owner moved and for some reason did not tell the FAA, so he did not get the mail package. Maybe that is because he lost his medical. And since he is not very computer savvy, he did not get anything via email nor take care of it online. It's is what I get for buying into a plane. I cannot wait to have my own plane, but that is several years off, since I will just be getting my rv14 wing kit next week.
At any rate, it appears that the FAA guy is going to allow me to fly back to MI, but then plane is grounded until reregistered.
Thanks for the links, I will let the main owner know about this.
Ken
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07-04-2013, 02:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Shorewood, WI (Milwaukee area)
Posts: 1,066
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Glad the ferry possibility worked out. Let us know the final outcome and how long it takes! Good luck on the -14.
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Shorewood (Milwaukee) Wisconsin
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07-04-2013, 03:07 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,797
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockmanreef
Then the main owner moved and for some reason did not tell the FAA,
Ken
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And there you have it, exactly why the FAA now requires re-registration.
Glad you got a ferry permit.
No question about it, owning an airplane is an educational experience. I would sugget that even as a minority owner it is in your self interest to get involved. Is your pitot-static/transponder test current? You said you were recently flying ifr. If the pitot-static is overdue, send in an asrs form to nasa to cover yourself. What about the annual condition inspection?
Remind your 80% partner that even if he gets his medical back his license is invalid until he notifies the FAA of his new address.
Btw, except for the $5 registration fee, taxes are a state by state affair. Depending on where you live, there may have been sales tax due when the plane was purchased (I see LLC so even more complicated); there may be annual property taxes, on the aircraft and/or hangar/tiedown. You could live here in CA and have all of them. I would inquire of your partner if these are up to date. Last thing you need is a tax lien.
Last edited by BobTurner : 07-04-2013 at 05:45 PM.
Reason: spelling
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07-04-2013, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Denver area
Posts: 272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV Wannabe
Anyone who didn't know about the new two year cycle would really have to live like a hermit. Of course forgetting about getting it done is a whole different story, but should be easily remembered when you go to fly again. "Where am I in that cycle? Ok I'm good, lets go."
Mark
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Except that it is a 3 year cycle, not 2. 
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07-04-2013, 04:57 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,768
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Another little "gotcha" I haven't seen mentioned here is that your new registration will expire 3 years from the date you renew it, not from the original expiration date.
So don't be in a real rush to renew early.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
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Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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07-04-2013, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,797
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I had heard that (moves renewal date up), and thought the FAA was going to fix it. Of course, it took them years to fix that same problem for cfi renewals. But one can hope.
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