Its almost prop swapping time!

[Brantel]

My new Hartzell should be here Monday! Hooray! Never thought that the girl would ever get the chance to swap from FP to CS but here we are.

Question for those that have gone thru the process before or have knowledge of the requirements....I have the modern OL's...

What do I have to do as far as the FSDO goes?

Write em a letter telling em I am swapping?

Put the plane back in Phase I for 5 hrs minimum?

Can I use the same test area as before?

Send the FSDO a revised Form 8130-6?

Logbook entry, new W&B?

What else???

Do I need to hear back from them before flying or ?

Thanks!

[Jesse]

Your operating limitations will tell you what to do. Normal is a letter to FSDO telling them you are going back into Phase 1, new Airworthiness Application to OKC to update the prop type in their records, then confirmation from FSDO on time back in phase 1, assuming geographical area doesn't change.

[LarryT]

He saved my bacon. My FSDO wanted 25 hrs. because they thought I was switching from FP to CS. With Mel's help I succeeded in helping them realize I was just changing from Sensenich metal FP to Catto FP. That got me back to 5 hrs. Perhaps YMMV with your FSDO - you are quite a ways from me.

Larry Tompkins
544WB -6A
W52 Battle Ground, WA

[AltonD]

Get ready to be thrilled Brian. Much different beast. Takeoffs and climbs will really impress.

[Brantel]

Originally Posted by AltonD

Get ready to be thrilled Brian. Much different beast. Takeoffs and climbs will really impress.

I was spoiled by my friend/instructor Bob Dougherty early in my transition training several years ago... His 7 has a CS prop and I have been wanting one ever since!

[Brantel]

Any advice on how to complete the revised Form 8130-6?

Do I need a DAR to inspect and sign it?

Do I fill the whole thing out again just like the original but replace the pertinent info?

Do I send it to OK or to the local FSDO?

???

[Jesse]

Originally Posted by Brantel

Any advice on how to complete the revised Form 8130-6?

Do I need a DAR to inspect and sign it?

Do I fill the whole thing out again just like the original but replace the pertinent info?

Do I send it to OK or to the local FSDO?

???

You shouldn't need a DAR. Might ask the FSDO about what needs to be filled out on the 8130-6. If you send it to OKC, I would include a cover letter stating that you changed the propeller and your operating limitations said you had to send in the form to update their records.

[Mel]

Originally Posted by Brantel

My new Hartzell should be here Monday! Hooray! Never thought that the girl would ever get the chance to swap from FP to CS but here we are.

Question for those that have gone thru the process before or have knowledge of the requirements....I have the modern OL's...

What do I have to do as far as the FSDO goes?

Write em a letter telling em I am swapping? Yes!

Put the plane back in Phase I for 5 hrs minimum? Yes!

Can I use the same test area as before? Yes!

Send the FSDO a revised Form 8130-6? Yes!

Logbook entry, new W&B? Yes!

What else??? They will probably want to do an inspection.

Do I need to hear back from them before flying or ? Yes!

You may have to educate them, or they may send you to a DAR. Don't let them give you a 40 hr. phase I.

Thanks!

See answers above.
If you know a local knowledgable DAR, it might be simpler to go through him/her. Many FSDO inspectors don't have time to keep up with experimental regs.
p.s. You don't send anything to Oklahoma City! Everything has to go through the FSDO.

[rvmills]

Brian,

I swapped props 2 years ago, and my experience matches what Mel and the others said. In my case, I talked to the FSDO inspector ahead of the mod, and he asked me to send him an e-mail describing the mod, and stating that I was re-entering Phase I for 5 hours, with a 100 nm radius test area (what we negotiated in person). He then asked me to send him another e-mail when the 5 hour test period was complete, and the plane was back out of Phase I. E-mail made that process really simple, so it might be worth suggesting to the FSDO fella there (along with an "ample" test area of your preference...never hurts to ask!)

My FSDO rep did not want to do an additional inspection (though he saw it at pylon school before the mod, and was going to see it at the races after the mod...he's the inspector for those events too). So YMMV for the inspection piece.

W&B and the standard log entries for the work and the phase I completion were required too.

We did do an 8130-6, though we were already doing an updated one, to make all my paperwork match better (AW/Reg, etc). I actually didn't realize we had to do one for the prop swap. Figure I would have found that out if we hadn't been doing one already. Good info!

Mel, for my education, and for future use in major mods that may come up down the road , can you guide me/us to the reg that shows when a new 8130-6 is required. Dug a little (ineffectively ), but if you can point my nose at it, that would be most appreciated.

Have fun with the swap and test Brian. I'm betting you'll love it!

Cheers,
Bob

[N661DJ]

Brian,
Just went thru the process a couple of weeks ago, Mel is right on, I was able to do it all with the local FSDO, One phone call and a couple of EMails, painless.
Dick